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emybaba
Nov Member 2004

emybaba

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Tahki. I accept the wilderness with revenants. Just not PKERs. I don't PK, and likewise I don't wish to be PKED upon.
I am perfectly okay to die by revenants, or dragons. It is their programmed nature. I just object to being killed by other players, who wilfully seek out to either kill for the 1. pure pleasure of killing knowing there is a live player on the other end or
2. or worse, for profit - the principle is the same.
In instance 1, at best their homicidal, in instance 2, drug pushers or *****. It's extreme, but in principle thats what it is.
In the 3rd instance when a group of people do it, then its pure predatorial behaviour.
I am perfectly okay with Wildy coming back. All I'm asking is that Jagex listens to the a small group of hardcore skill/quest fans - we don't wish to be forced to into a kill or be killed scenario. It's not for all.

28-Dec-2010 13:19:32

1quilla1
Apr Member 2007

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@Tahki,
You say the wilderness is supposed to be wild, agreed. I dont see the reason that pkers should be part of it being wild. There are other things that are in the wildy and more that could be introduced.
The reason most sensible players reject the wildy for pkers is the greed it creates. Pkers already have bounty and pk worlds not to mention the alterations made to clan wars.
What I find amazing is that some pkers on the forums seem to think that loads of rich players are going to put on their best armour and go for a walk in the wildy. If the rich pickings dont go into the wildy then the pkers might as well squable amongst themselves. Jagex could make the wildy more wild by leaving the revs there.
I agree with mnost of the comments that removing the trade limits would ruin the economy and would contribute to RWT again as before.
All in all I am against this proposed back dating of the game.

28-Dec-2010 13:24:36

zanytox96

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Totally agree with Emybaba,I may have just returned to playing this game a month or so ago after stopping for years, but I say that if you are to bring the old wildy back, just make some worlds for those that wish to not be PKed upon. I imagine those that make money from the wildy, such as killing green dragons or unicorns as such, will find it much harder, with the fear of being killed by PK for money, items or whatever such. Just Jagex, at least give those people worlds that is safe from PK.

28-Dec-2010 13:33:40

0Tahki0

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@Emybaba, Im neither condoning or defending pkers at all and agree with you on the principles of pkers in general however, having "safe worlds" for people to go to will reduce pking to nonexistantcy as it was when the wilderness was changed in the first place. Having these safe worlds, although personally I would like to have one or two, would simply be pointless and take away from the wilderness as a whole save for clan wars.
@1quilla1, Pkers should always be apart of the wilderness. Pkers brought a risk to the wilderness that no revenant nor chaos elemental could and thats human controlled terror instilled into every person that steps foot over that ditch. Sure the bottom feeders at the ditch can be annoying, I myself have been killed many times back in the day trying to rc but as I said in a previous post thats the cost of traversing the wilderness and not something that should be confined to a majority of worlds but all worlds. Im not speaking as a pker as that was something I only did out of boredom and only against those I know id lose against(weird I know), or with clanmates during pk events, Im speaking as a player who understands the NEED for pkers. The game needs more risk for this area and quite honestly its only 1/5 of the entire runescape world. The biggest reason why I support this however isnt for pkers, but for massive clan wars that the clan war area cant contain. Those who have been around long enough know what Im talking about and most Im sure are voting yes to see more of this.

28-Dec-2010 13:50:09

emybaba
Nov Member 2004

emybaba

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@tahki. Then we have to agree to disagree.
I've never doubted Wildy was dangerous. I just don't accept that PKers make it more so... just bring more revs, it can be just as deadly or more.
But I am more that willing to face the improved revenant army... I just don't accept to be party to someone else's twisted pleasure.
I also don't accept what you're saying that we have no choice in the matter. PKer's left the game on their choice and volition. We all have a right to choose. I am not saying I will quit, I enjoy RS for the layers that it brings. I just don't enjoy PKing and that's the core of it.
When Jagex removed PKers from wildy, it was RWT. I am under no illusion for what they are attempting to bring back.
Fine bring back PKing in Wildy, just remove quests from it...give an alternative route to the rc druid... all these just force players to be preyed upon.

28-Dec-2010 14:00:20

Alt F4 77

Alt F4 77

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the problem with non PK worlds is that people with somthing to lose (rich) wont go to the PK worlds.
As it sits right now PKrs can do all the killing they want up in the wilderness.
But that isnt good enough.
They can only prey on each other, when they want to prey on EVERYONE
If Jagex put in NON pk worlds then those few worlds would be over crowded
since theres an overwhelming majority of people that want PKing in every world i supose its a foregone conclusion that its going to happen.
Fine!
If they want the wilderness back let em have it!
BUT make it "truely" wilderness dont make it safe for PK Hunting partys
Keep the revenants in the wild in every world. Maybe even tougher revs. With PK hunting partys of 10 or so up there, put some rev knight hunting partys of 10 or so, hunting PKrs
if your bad enough to go up there hunting, remember theres things up there hunting YOU

28-Dec-2010 14:19:43 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2010 14:22:39 by Alt F4 77

Rig tank

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@emy, please stop with the pointless post, when they took out wildy (sure you were not a player back then) they didn't have a vote, no one was willing to compromise, so why should we?
you guys are too used to "safescape" thats why you bch about simple thing such as pkers.
Jagex already stated what they are going to install, and ad far as i know you guys are the minority and you will always be. find 400k people to vote no then i might take your points serious.

28-Dec-2010 14:20:10

0Tahki0

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@Emybaba, Ok you dont like pking, thats fine dont go into the wilderness. Would be the same if you didnt like Castle Wars, slaying DKs, or Mobilising Armies. The wilderness was made the way it was with pking in mind and Jagex's biggest mistake was taking it out in the first place. There were a myriad of ways to control RWT that they could have implemented but instead they chose to eliminate pking and free trade. Pking is apart of the gameplay that many people love and a few people hate and just like with anything in this game you have the choice to pk/be pked or to find something else in the runescape world to occupy your time. And as far as quests go...
o Quests (e.g. Spirit of Summer) and Activities (e.g. Clan Wars) would be relocated
The rc druid was made with pking in mind as well and is why so many pkers hung around the ditch in the first place. Were it up to me I would move him however it would eliminate the risk from getting to him.

28-Dec-2010 14:23:00 - Last edited on 28-Dec-2010 14:31:50 by 0Tahki0

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