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Phthartic

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Well now, see? You can be somewhat civil when you make the effort. Now I can actually respond to the content instead of just having a negative visceral reaction.
EDIT: Well since you edited your post you negated what I just said about civility, so I guess since talking to you is like being called stupid by a kindergartener with Down's syndrome, I'll have to educate you in another post about the dangers of calling others stupid.
You seem to feel that the only risk in the game is to be had from fighting other players. While I have never had the adrenaline rush from the 2 examples you cite, dying from a monster, dying from a quest boss, or dying from a player is all pretty much the same thing. And, surprisingly to you, no doubt, not all monsters and quest bosses are within, what is it 2 minutes? from your respawn point(sorry, I don't often die), so yeah, you lose your stuff just like PKing.
As I have said several times on this thread, I completely agree that those who enjoy PKing should be able to get the stuff from those they kill. Just do it on your own turf, with other savages who share your bloodlust. Whatsa matter? Just no fun if you can't attack unarmed runecrafters or clue hunters? Fight all those "90%" of players you imagine also enjoy PKing on a PVP world. Yes, I KNOW, that's not how PVP worlds work. So demand Jagex make the PVP worlds work like we both agree they should work. No EP, no silly statues, no silly 76K tricks.
Our objections are mostly to the poll process. They should've simply said "we're doing this" if that's what they had decided to do, not pretended to get player's input. But they knew perfectly well there is not some vast majority of players wanting this, or they would've just done a normal poll like they always do, not this rigged series of farces.

31-Dec-2010 08:30:10 - Last edited on 31-Dec-2010 08:41:13 by Phthartic

Matchbox42
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Oh my goodness.. you can't just make certain worlds NOT have a wilderness. That doesn't work and I've said it before. Now yes you can make the PvP worlds drop as if it were wilderness, but you can't discard the wilderness settings in only certain worlds it doesn't even make sense to do that.

31-Dec-2010 08:37:59

Oney

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I will very much enjoy this as i have played for a rather long time. I used to pk alot, then came the "falador massacre" i got banned for just being their, quit for awhile and came back in 07 or so of course. I do enjoy the game and look forward to this dramatic change *Back* :)
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31-Dec-2010 08:38:03

Bake n Steak

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sorry, I made a mistake... I was under the impression that competitive gamers still had a place on runescape... Obviously I was mislead. If you choose to spend your time casing pixel butterflies then I guess *hat's your choice, or if you want to fight predictable monsters who have no potential for innovation or a creative use of their skills then i guess that might be fun... But for me, i'd like to test myself against the best that the free MMOR** world has to offer. Not the lines of code that jagex can write... Someday, you'll be walking around a sandbox and realize how boring it is, then maybe you'll want for some competition, until then please keep pretending like your making good points on the fourms, your grammar and use of vocabulary is almost admirable, but let's be honest, were all using computers and a thesaurus is a right click away. So if you wanna insult people do it with actual facts not just conjunctures based off short-sighted opinions.

31-Dec-2010 08:41:18

pikmen49

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People, yes, if the old wilderness and free trade comes back players will beable to bot more and become richer. But if you really think about it, look what a lot of people have done in 'merching clans' where they the minapulate the prices to become extremely rich, don't you think that this is just as bad? What i'm trying to say is, there will always be those scammers, cheater and botters in all games, including RuneScape, so why not just bring back the fun of old wildy and free trade, as we try to get by with those scammers, cheaters and botters.

31-Dec-2010 08:42:57

White Breadt
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Phthartic,
I'm referring to one of your previous posts: "'90% out of aprox 650k people voted yes.'
No, they claim that 90% of VOTES CAST were for 'yes.' There is a huge difference."
Okay, let me make this simple for you.
1 player = 1 vote
90% of votes for yes = 90% of players WHO VOTED voted yes
They're exactly the same. Therefore, no difference.
And there's almost no difference in the words Phtharic and Pathetic.
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31-Dec-2010 08:49:13 - Last edited on 31-Dec-2010 08:51:25 by White Breadt

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I'll try to combat all of the misinformed people in this thread. It's going to be hard, especially since all the people against it will just ignore this post anyways. I'll start with a few things, also, incoming wall of text:
1. People claiming this will bring botting back. Wait, what? Botting went somewhere? If you think people stopped botting, you are grossly misinformed. Go to world 84 at living caverns. About 20 people there AREN'T botting, and that world is almost ALWAYS full. Maybe you're not aware, but when you took away the ability for people to take their mains money to fund their pures or alts, you essentially created an entirely new botting community. The community that needs money to fund their characters. Congratulations, the botters you removed from the game by elimating RWT just came back to bot to fund their pures.
2. Merchanting is ridiculous. The only way to "merchant" is to essentially break the system, and in doing so, messing up the regular player by raising the prices on items they NEED. That is a horrible design.
3. Sure scammers will come back, but in all honesty, if you actually manage to get scammed, I'm sorry, but you didn't deserve that money to begin with. If new players can't read the tips AND check their trade windows, they should probably quit anyways.
4. People who claim that bringing back wilderness is going to ruin people doing clue scrolls. News flash, I did clue scrolls before wilderness was taken away, and after. You'll live. ALSO the people who will actually kill you while doing clue scrolls can be easily avoided. It's called world hopping. Learn to do it.
5. PKing is NOT the same as it used to be. PVP worlds and BH can NEVER make up for the old system. They are both horribly designed and flawed.
6. This is not YOUR runescape. Just because you didn't quit when they took the fun out of this game doesn't entitle you to keep wilderness away. We played long before you and will likely play long after you once this comes back

31-Dec-2010 08:53:13

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