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dunforgiven

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i fear their response to the abyss question indicates they are still planing on feed rcers to the pkers.
the only hope i have now, is that they will either leave the abyss in the *on pking area, or they have made the agility armor good enough to survive long enough to get out and change worlds. if they havent or dont, then they are likely to lose a lot of rcers who see their only hope of getting 99 in the skill as being rich enough (meaning scamming) to buy the skill. frankly my dear, I couldn't give a dam. never had a river to build one on.
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22-Jan-2011 22:44:00

Phthartic

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So much for that idea...
Decided to check out the Q&A thread on the coming changes.
Allow me to quote myself from a post about people wanting to immediately start abusing free trade by transferring stuff between their multiple accounts in contravention of the rules:
"But I wouldn't worry; Jagex will probably either give them a one time dispensation because they couldn't be bothered to read the rules, or else just not enforce that rule like so many others."
My, aren't I prescient: From Wildy Q&A thread:
"Is item trading between two self-owned accounts allowed now? Will such players get banned? Or will the rules be relaxed?
That is still against the rules but it is something we are looking at – for now take it that trading between accounts you own is not allowed, if we change this we will let everyone know."
They're looking at it. Yet another opportunity for people who made poor decisions to gain an advantage over one account players who don't get to decide whether they should go PKing on their "pure" with the deceptive combat level, or their "ranger" or their whatever trendy kind of Hybrid they made. Yeah, I know that was OUR poor decision right?
So I guess they have a foolproof way of distinguishing a bot account shifting illict gains to a main account from a skiller shifting money to a main or whatever? Yet another claim I'd like to see proof of....
Couldn't they even wait for the actual update to start proving people's objections to returning free trade correct?

22-Jan-2011 22:46:40 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2011 22:49:05 by Phthartic

Phthartic

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Another couple interesting confirmations that people have been concerned about:
"To clarify the issue regarding dying with untradable objects in the wilderness, I can confirm that you will not be able to run back to untradable objects.
The air obelisk will still be in the wilderness."
And what to make of this quote?
"How u gonna take care of bots.
Harshly, we can and will still perm ban people who use macros."
I had heard evidence that people were getting temp bans or even just rolled back stats. Is there some justification for punishing some botters less harshly than others? Are they perhaps only going to permaban major bot operators, but one guy who bots with one account will get a lighter sentence? Completely bogus and ineffectual not to say flaccid in my opinion. The point of permabans is deterrence!
This statement just sounds like the PR they've been spouting for years resulting in continued botting.

22-Jan-2011 22:56:57 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2011 23:43:33 by Phthartic

Phthartic

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Mystic--
Not trying to "get in your business," but about your question on the Q&A page about offering 1 mil for ashes or 1 gp for a divine spirit shield: Were those examples just tests of their answer that floors and caps would be removed?
I'm honestly not making any accusation by this, but is there a legitimate scenario where this would happen? I assume a fire rune or something could fall in value that much legitimately. And as we both agree if a seller legitimately decides his item(s) is worth 1 gp that's fine with me. But generally speaking those sorts of trades would be more likely part of an illicit transfer between one person's accounts or a RWT deal wouldn't they?
I know you realize I'm asking because I know you understand the RS economy way better than me.

22-Jan-2011 23:25:12

Phthartic

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Well, I've been making far too many posts as I read the Q&A thread, so I decided to stop quoting and commenting as I found things.
I'll just end by saying several of their answers make it sound like they aren't just reverting to the old wildy, they're giving even more advantages to PKers than before.
It sounds like ALL untradable items (except 3 assuming the victim is unskulled) are lost forever to the victim, and they'll all be converted to cash for the murderer, so the only way to keep PKers from profiting from your death is to take no more than 3 items period. So it's almost guaranteed if you're in the wildy to actually DO something (clue scroll, skill, quest, etc.) the victim loses what he was there to do AND the PKer gets to profit from his death, providing more incentive than BEFORE to attack skillers and clue scrollers. Apparently in the true old wildy, only some untradables converted to cash when they dropped, but that just wasn't generous enough to PKers.
And apparently teleporting away to avoid being murdered just isn't "cricket," don't you know, so now they're considering removing that possibility as well.
Time to stop referring to this update as "reversion" and start calling it "new, improved, PKer biased wildy"

23-Jan-2011 00:32:33

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