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More objectionably so, the safety of our relics is thusly compromised when those with loyalties to other Gods are granted access to the reliquaries, and there is justifiable concern over whether those relics could be stolen or commandeered by the armies or forces of other Gods, and used to further the course of the unnecessary and brutal conflict that has erupted. The Guardians of Armadyl must not allow these forces to gain access to the weapons of Gods, so that they may be misused in propagating rather than stifling conflict, and so this policy must be opposed. Those who are to take the vows as a Guardian must be educated, immersed and integrated in the confession of the Armadylean faith.

On the interference and dominance of the Armadylean Presbytery by the military forces
It has been a sad state of affairs that Grand Master Lavelle sought to elevate herself above the clergy, and by use of simple military might - a doctrine strongly opposed by the Armadylean belief system - has sought to pressure and meddle in the affairs of what is a largely independent and free clergy, which discusses Armadyl’s beliefs openly and with conviction, and interprets it to apply to the trials of the modern world. By involving herself in the Presbytery, without taking the time to study and find prominence herself as a clergywoman, and merely insisting upon her primacy over His church by sheer military might, she has ********* both the Guardians and the Presbytery, and defied the teachings of the Winged Lord. Raw might is not, and shall never, quality as legitimate right, and the violation of that principle by the Grand Master is further exemplar of the unsuitability of her policies, policies that are upheld by her successor. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

14-Feb-2016 19:21:36

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On the mishandling of the Karamjan slavery crisis
Whilst no one of the Armadylean faith can suggest that the actions of the Craven regime on Karamja are justifiable, and by all means, I too join fully in condemnation of their treatment of their fellow man in an unlawful and unequal manner, there must be certified concern in the way that the policy of the Guardians has generally pushed towards a confrontational rather than peaceful solution. Before any credible attempt was made at negotiation, the embargo was the first call made, and there has since been a general failure to engage with world powers in negotiating a resolution to this crisis. The course that Grand Master Lavelle has put us on, and the one that has earned our order a great deal of outrage and eroded out credibility, is one of conflict - inevitable conflict - unless there is a redirection of the efforts of this order. It is not in the nature of the Guardians to undertake a first strike, unless the enemy is so utterly evil and beyond diplomacy that there is no other recourse. The Cravens are mortal men, and many others in the world also disagree with their behaviour, like the Church, the Asgarnian people and state, and the Misthalite people and state. A diplomatic solution hasn’t arisen as a result not of Craven refusal, but of the neglect of our previous and current Marshals to undertake proper procedure and time in attempting such diplomacy. The Guardians, and thus Armadyl, are weaker for it. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

14-Feb-2016 19:22:31

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A manifesto for the restoration of credibility and purpose for the Order
Thus, in light of the grievances listed, and their ingrained nature in the leadership of the Guardians of Armadyl, until an adequate resolution can be found, my household and I withdraw all funding and support from them, and I place myself as a challenger to the position of Grand Master of the Order of the Guardians of Armadyl, and thusly Marshal of His Vanguard, in order to provide a reasonable, rational alternative to the policies of dominance, conflict and disregard that have been a rot in the Order, and damaged us from within. The Order must be united in its beliefs for a just, peaceful and lawful society worldwide, and it must conduct itself in a manner that does not brazenly clash with personalities. The Order must make efforts to restore working relationships with world governments that have been lost due to the undiplomatic nature of our leaders. The Order must withdraw from where it has become overbearing, and campaign on a platform of peace, protection and personal freedom. Interference in the clergy must come to an end, and we must impress by reason, using force only when it is absolutely necessary. We must speak softly, but carrying a big stick; not wave around a big stick whilst rambling like madmen.

In nomine Armadyl, let us search within ourselves for answers, and let us reject the dilution of our values into a doctrine that has not only harmed our order and our God, but the world at large.

Adrian Aerendyl-Mathrafal
Prince of Albamonte
Prince of the Three Kandarins
Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian
Vanguard of Armadyl Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

14-Feb-2016 19:23:07

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A Response to Barbaric Challenge and Insinuations of Misconduct

Below lies an official response to the issue which has been accused upon the just and honorable order of the Guardians of Armadyl. With the publication of this statement, the Grand Master does deny the necessity of such a barbaric and unwarranted provocation.

To begin this response to ill-placed grievances, I wish to remind the sender of the values of the Lord, whom he claims to uphold. The Lord, Armadyl, does proclaim that we, His holy guardians, uphold the pursuit of justice and liberty, to ensure freedom and goodness for all:

Upon His holy declaration of honorable duel with Bandos, He states,

• That men and gods, alike, shall share the same liberties and the same respect underneath His holy law, and that no injustice shall befall man or god henceforth.

• That we must act not alone, but together; for only in common can we achieve tremendous and infrangible justice and harmony upon our home, Gielinor, which is wrought with tyrants and despicable personalities.

• That we must act swiftly to ensure freedom and justice for all; to protect the liberties of man and god alike, whether it is through diplomacy or the likes of just and warranted punishment.

• That we shall challenge honorably, and for the liberties of all or that we must bring justice upon where it lacks.

Moreover, your challenges, and the insinuations which you bear within your provocation, are not only ill-conceived but foolish. Not only do you impede on fellow justiciars of the Lord, you have, in no capacity, even attempted to approach the Grand Master diplomatically-minded, which you, yourself, claim we have no capability of. So, who are you to judge us, true justiciars of the Lord, that we are not of diplomatic capacity, when you, too, are capable of such sudden and unprecedented aggression which you accuse upon our Lord's order? Hi, I'm Dan.

14-Feb-2016 22:37:21 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2016 23:03:27 by Dansplainer

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With that in mind, allow me to remind you that your provocations are akin to the wicked, ritualistic ways of Bandos - which taught that might is right, which ravaged countless worlds and destroyed many cultures in its wake. Your aggression is not only sudden, it impedes the proper and honorable movement that the Order of the Lord has taken under His guidance. Such provocations prove that you challenge not for a movement of justice and diplomatically-mindedness, but for power and control over that which you believe yourself superior to. You are no true man of the Lord, if you are incapable of a sense of common cause; not only between men of the Lord and men of the other gods, but between men of the Lord themselves.

In conclusion, I wish not ill will towards you, but that my statement has brought clarity to you. I would always be grateful to see to it that the Aerendyl and the Guardians may once more be partners towards a common cause of justice underneath the Lord.

Forever and beyond, a Guardian of the Lord,

Joanna Lavelle Hi, I'm Dan.

14-Feb-2016 22:37:31 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2016 23:10:07 by Dansplainer

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Tagged onto the end of Joanna's letter was the following, written in different handwriting:

P.S.
If you still would like to duel for leadership, I'm more than happy to fight in the Grandmaster's stead. He's too preoccupied to duel you, currently.

~Felix Nocte
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14-Feb-2016 23:16:45

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With regards to the reckless and meagre response to my protestation.

Like the previous missive, also publicly posted, for the benefit of all Armadylean peoples to see what intrigue and venom is attacking their Guardians.

To allege that I seek to instigate a violent or military challenge, against both yourself and your consort, is an insult to my character and to my bloodline. Peaceful transition is always the first course attempted, and it is peaceful transition I call for here. You have made no attempt to address my accusations, falling back on the soft, but ignorant, cushion of ad hominem, and instead wilfully brush aside what I have said with all conviction with accusations that I myself have not dedicated myself to the study of Lord Armadyl's will. I, who like my father and his father before him, have given myself to Armadyl and vowed in all things to act justly and protect the weak from suffering.

Attempts have been made both in private and in public to address these concerns with those empowered to effect these changes by their authority. With no progress in these avenues, the only recourse is to make public this matter, and allow others to understand the outrage that is felt over the endangerment of our people and our God by self destructive policies.

I will not make this into a war. Try and strike me down if you must, for sure, that shall only prove my word true. If the Guardians are to survive this uncertainty, if they are to prosper, then they must be able to address with earnest penitence their own issues.

So the ball is in the court of those who are failing us. Address the problems with our order, and make reasoned change to move forward on; or continue on your present course, and I will not need to challenge you so for the order will have driven itself into obscurity and extinction with its own abrasions with the world powers.

You are the ones driving us into conflict, not I. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

14-Feb-2016 23:42:58 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2016 23:47:19 by Palpatom

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Post deleted due to accidental use of quote instead of edit. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

14-Feb-2016 23:46:32 - Last edited on 14-Feb-2016 23:47:05 by Palpatom

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Understanding the Word of the Lord
A Guardian of the Lord forever and beyond,
Joanna Lavelle

The Guardians of the Lord question the faith and intention of the Lord Aerendyl, whom already proclaims himself over an invisible majority he has spoken for, and do question why he resumes his unwarranted provocations upon his brothers and sisters in the Guardians.

Yet, we may question, how far shall you go for the Lord's true, infrangible word?

As I had tirelessly pointed out in my last publication, I do believe that what the Guardians do is in accord with what the Lord has spoken - and only His word may be true, if you are to argue that neither I, nor the countless Guardians who give their lives selflessly each and every day, do not look to Him with the respect He has earned, then how close are you to the likes of Bandos to claim yourself above all else, even the Lord, to turn the law of Armadyl unto you, for the sake of yourself?

A man of the Lord does not forsake the Lord's men, nor should he establish himself higher than anyone else; he should know that his place is among, not beyond, fellow men, no matter whom they may be or believe. Yet, you reside within a comfort of wealth, living off of the backs of common men; and while you claim yourself a man of goodness, you have shown nothing but to be an aggressor against fellow men of the Lord simply for the sake of control. Such unprecedented actions should be left to the heinous warmongers of Bandos, not true men of good - and definitely not the true justiciars of the Lord.

So if you are to claim that the Guardians of the Lord, who have pursued the Lord's justice and liberty; who have brought refuge and necessities in Asgarnia's time of need. Who have brought light to the heinous actions of the Craven regime. If you are to insinuate that we have betrayed the word of the Lord, then it is not I who has twisted the law of the Lord. Hi, I'm Dan.

15-Feb-2016 01:30:40

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