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heretic hary said :
I'm covering fear, it's effects, and how immunity to it is a violation of the adherence to realism. Not to mention adrenaline's altering of the fight-or-flight response. I have some other stuff related to psychology, but nothing directly.
Looks like I'll be making another addition to ''Combat Theory''.


Ffffffffabulous~. The chemical cocktail was always a subject that piqued my interest. I was especially in love with the idea of pre-conditioned responses (responses that can kick in /before/ the adrenaline dump hits, enabling one good, well-rounded, ferocious technique to be used in that time). I was also interested in the various adrenaline rushes that one can receive, as opposed to the assumed “one” type of rush one can get (think of the difference in feel between climbing a mountain and speaking in front of a group of people), as well as the variations of the process with regard to gender. Men tend to have a large rush that leaves fairly rapidly, while women have a steady buildup and a much larger cool down period. I feel that the adrenaline factor would hit archers and other rangers heaviest, as the fine motor skills needed to successfully aim and precisely maneuver a ranged weapon can all but disappear under adrenal stress. It may also be worth mentioning the ability to become used to certain kinds of violence, granting a professional access to fine motor skills and rational thought that a less-experienced person might not have.

18-Oct-2013 02:32:42

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From what it sounds like, it seems like you won’t be covering a vast amount of psychological material, which kind of saddens me. I was really looking forward to a section about unwanted facial contact. It causes the vast majority of people to freeze up or flinch, just by forcibly placing a hand on their face (try this on your friends when you want them to shut the hell up, folks!). I think it’s likely related to the intense (and pathetically trivial) feelings and thoughts we tend to associate with facial contact by another human being. In criminal circles, I believe such forcible, unwanted facial contact is simply known as a “B*tch slap”, and is often used in conjunction with a setup in order to orchestrate a violent crime.

18-Oct-2013 02:32:52 - Last edited on 18-Oct-2013 02:34:39 by Aivas

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heretic hary said :
''Hit-taking and the Human Anatomy''


Don’t forget about those depressed skull fractures! Nothing quite like feeling great, walking around, smiling and laughing with your buddies, and then falling over, passing out, and dying, because of blunt trauma from a wound you received much earlier in the day. May also be worth doing a section about shock, and how it sometimes causes people to become idiotic robots, locked in a single train of stubborn thought (ie. “My leg was just blown off but I can’t feel the pain, maybe if I just bring the pieces to a medic he’ll be able to sew it back on in the heat of a battle“).





heretic hary said :
I'm also going to be covering the katana and some other weapons, and give some of the techniques and footwork for fighting with those as well. Asian martial arts information is passed down through ''living tradition'' more than historical documents, unlike the European martial arts.


Sounds great, but I’d advise caution. There’s a whole bunch of crap out there, even from seemingly ‘reliable’ sources, about the stud-muffin-ness of the katana. It’s a pretty average sword, to be honest. It even chips more than many swords I’ve had the blessed opportunity to handle. Hell, the way of the Samurai was “The Way of the Horse and Bow“, not *The Way of The Sharp Metal Stick“. The absolute best way I can advise ya to carry out your research is probably to buy a katana and test it out for yourself. Also…don’t buy too much into that “living tradition” stuff. Most martial arts are bull sh*t, anyways. Even much of the Krav and other RBSD people are into nowadays don’t hold up real well when someone’s busy r*ping your girlfriend or filling you with .45 rounds. Not that the old methods are worthless (there‘s a lot of good lost in modern stupidity), just make sure to take information from them with a couple extra grains of salt.

18-Oct-2013 02:33:01 - Last edited on 18-Oct-2013 02:36:45 by Aivas

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That being said, the katana is still pretty darn sharp, and the Samurai weren't Japan's most elite mascots for centuries, they were Japan's most elite warriors for centuries. There's a lot of good information, equipment, skill and technique in there. It just needs to be sifted out of the modern stupidity of Bruce Lee movies and ideas of katanas cutting through cars.

18-Oct-2013 02:33:12 - Last edited on 18-Oct-2013 02:42:03 by Aivas

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Don't feel bad about taking over page 8. You're on-topic, by the thread owner's command.

When I've made everything else, I'll focus on including psychological parts as an addition. The goal is simply to make a roleplayer have the ability to roleplay a variety of fighting methods that shows the person at least has intelligence about what's being used. For those who want to learn more, I'm leaving citations they can look up later, on their own time, if they wish.

I definitely intend to cover what actually happens when certain wounds occur, and list historical examples of what happens when people received those wounds. Most people fail to realize that when the sinews on the thigh, knee or calf are full severed, the fighter is done . No getting back up and continuing to fight, no fighting on one's knees - in reality, it's recognized that when you're floored from a leg injury, you're done for.

Yeah, I'm aware of the lack of credibility behind a lot of the ''living tradition''. That's why I prefer historical manuals over ''living tradition.'' You see, those who practice the ''living tradition'' don't have the threat of death if they mess up or fail. A noted result is that these people end up with sloppy ways of fighting that don't work in an actual fight, and if asked about it in practice a common claim is ''it only works for real.'' But if something can't even be done in practice, can one really think it will be done ''for real?'' The answer, in my opinion, is no.
Many of the places that try teaching the katana, I won't even consider them teaching martial arts. Simply sportified combat. Enough of what is tuahgt is focused around the ''I can try again if I fail'' mindset of tournaments, and rarely focuses on the techniques most useful for life-or-death fighting, and almost never gives the mentality to use such techniques.

Yes, I fully intend to blow a huge hole into the katana hype.

18-Oct-2013 14:12:55

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heretic hary said :


Most people fail to realize that when the sinews on the thigh, knee or calf are full severed, the fighter is done . No getting back up and continuing to fight, no fighting on one's knees - in reality, it's recognized that when you're floored from a leg injury, you're done for.


But Kayne Ah can fite joost liek Blak Knite een Monty Python Holee Graile dontchu knoww.

On a more serious note, I'm not entirely sure about that last part. While I have little personal experience with the physiological implications of severing sinews in combat (I've never had my leg sinews severed, as you may have guessed :P ) I do recall a time I was floored from a leg injury. For all intents and purposes, I was immobilized, injured, in pain, helpless, and getting ready to meet my maker. "Done for". Then a couple of my friends appeared with their knives (they had seen what was going on from aways off and came running to my aid, this isn't a Power Rangers movie) and saved meh life. I was in more or less the exact same situation you just described, yet here I am, and here he isn't. Although I see the logic behind generalizing this sort of thing (down with leg injury = udedbro) , I'd refrain from using absolutes. Nothing is 100%.

18-Oct-2013 23:34:17

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In all fairness, your statement works pretty well for a general rule. I wouldn't go around and invent a martial art based off of waiting for your friends to miraculously show up at the eleventh hour. My example is just the exception that breaks that "100% of the time" kinda deal. It's also worth noting that my leg wasn't hewn off, and that that kind of crippling wound is said to have killed thousands on the battlefield (a place where you /were/ likely to have many friends around....hopefully). In either case, I like where this is going and hope we can all get to see some material soon. I know I definitely want to
bash it with a Goedendag
impale it on an Ahlspiess
whack it with a halberd
erm, I hope I can provide some helpful commentary on it, at any rate. XD

19-Oct-2013 23:28:37

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