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Vekon

Vekon

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Ashtorette said :
I don't understand. You seem to be complaining about the substance of an entire character and plot line, with the intention that, unless that character and this plot line cease, you will not join or acknowledge it. Which is fine. I have nothing against that, but at this point I see three things in RS lore that have been heavily referenced:

1: Dragons
2: Undead
3: Necromancy

And while your group may have made both of these a no-go, I fail to see how this is a lorebreak. Vampyres are also made no-go by many groups. I'm quite sure some players I've engaged with in Glorious Kandarin actually said this to me. Or told me this, or that, while perfectly within lore, is just not kosher for some reason or another. But you know what it takes to kill someone? Smashing their head in while they sleep.

Is a dragon OP? Are wights? Sure, why not. But you are, and I've said this before, and was promptly ignored, OP, Vekon. Your entire lineage is OP. Your entire group is littered with OP. Your family is OP, and not necessarily a lorebreak, now, is it? I'm glad we can agree on that. But the RP is not going to change. The players involved are not going to change. And the characters are not going to change. These three things, which you have taken issue with, are not changing. So the answer is a resounding no.

Please take any issues not related to current plots or characters involved in the kingdom to another thread.

.. Are you lost? Whether any of these things are OP, Kandarin or Dakugarnia, is hugely and entirely irrelevant to the point of the previous discussion.

I didn't intend to post here again after reading Daku's reply. But if you're going to make remarks towards me, finishing it with "Now stop posting here!!!" is kind of silly.
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HouseVekon

26-Feb-2019 23:22:46 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2019 23:25:34 by Vekon

Ashtorette
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Ashtorette

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Why do you care? You're not interacting with anyone here on principle. You've literally decided to disregard every decision made here. Barring the fact that you do not understand a single shred of what I just said, there still stands the issue of your completely pointless presence in this thread. Either you are here to interact, and have valid points, or you are not, and don't. And it looks like you don't. Have valid points that is. As I've said, you can only have two possible issues regarding the dragon and necromancy:

It is lorebreak, which is decidedly not true.

It is OP, which you yourself have now admitted NEVER crossed your mind. So there goes that point out the window, unless you'd like to contradict yourself. So, you and your friend, let's settle that former issue:

It is lorebreak.

No it's not.

I think that settles everything.

27-Feb-2019 01:09:14

Vekon

Vekon

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Ashtorette said :
I think that settles everything.

I need you to think about this one and answer it honestly.

Do you think that a creature that is not only a perversion of natural life, but an arguably evil creation through nefarious means and dark magic, would be able to reasonably exist a top a castle of holy knights at the center of a holy city renown for combating evil and upholding just law, whilst worshipping an extremely powerful god who represents those same ideals to a more strict degree. A god who is literally present on the world and inside the castle in game.

Really, really think about that one for a moment. If you can somehow convince yourself that is reasonable, lorebreak or not, I will eat my own boot.
KANDAR VICTA

Axel Vekon, the Eternal Emperor, the Archmage, the Lichslayer, of the Holy Kandarin Empire.

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HouseVekon

27-Feb-2019 01:20:45

Ashtorette
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Ashtorette

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I'm sorry, is that exactly what you were at one point? Why would the White Knights stand for a largely Zarosian Empire on their lands. Unless your point is that Asgarnia's Saradominist forces are weakened. Which I completely agree with. They're severely weakened. So much that evil forces have taken over. At least, evil in their eyes. It's almost as if nothing has changed, but I'm almost certain that exact same point was brought up, which is why I think you're the one who's confused, right now.

My Temple Knight character is actively opposed to this regime and investigating the Duchess, currently. And no, I'm not particularly invested in either side. I'm happy to see either outcome, be it the white knights being crushed by an occupying evil, or said evil flying too close to the sun and falling.

It seems as if you're the one with bias, here, considering you have, for who knows how many times, ignored the fact that your empire is largely anti-Saradominist, and I've experienced this sentiment in-game while RPing with your friends . You probably don't even realize how long I've been here and the things I've witnessed, all at the hands of people in Glorious Kandarin, which was the first W42 clan I was ever invited to! Do you realize how you sound, right now? To me?

27-Feb-2019 01:27:10

RiDaku
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RiDaku

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Vekon said :
Really, really think about that one for a moment. If you can somehow convince yourself that is reasonable, lorebreak or not, I will eat my own boot.

We here in the roleplay server, in this roleplay group, like to handle roleplay events through roleplay! I should note that the dragon is NOT some decayed, rotting corpse laying on top of Saradomin giving out this epic aura of decay. I should also note that we do NOT recognize Saradomin as literally sitting in the castle (Something that you, and in fact *the other canon* screamed at Nat over doing the opposite when she was in charge. I like how reverse that is now. Back then it was a problem he was there, because it stopped things like.. uh.. invasion. And only invasion. Because all that was wanted, was invasion. Now, it's NOT a problem because it helps.. uh.. takeover. And only takeover.)

The presence of the dragon is intentionally a point of contention in-character. I'm sorry that you, someone who made such a VERY GRAND POINT of not RPing with us to the degree that you ignored and nullified Ash's earlier decrees against Kandarin presence in the port post-my-takeover, feel the best way to handle a plot point that you are not a part of is to complain about it OOC. Honestly, I'm really sorry for that.

EDIT A YEAR LATER;
So that I don't restart the topic by posting it fresh, I found this little thing in the official RuneScape discord server. Go ahead and look it up.

Mod Jack confirms that dragons can be "magically enslaved", which is quite a blanket term to cover any form of magic that conquers a dragon's willpower and "deeper connections". They cannot naturally be kept, but Jeoffrey's was not naturally kept beyond letting it mature. Jagex lore legitimized this, as I knew it already was legitimate. The Sicarius |
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27-Feb-2019 01:33:15 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2020 05:45:37 by RiDaku

Vekon

Vekon

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Ashtorette said :
me?

You very nimbly dodged the only question I presented to you. In the following paragraphs, I display how to actually give a reply that is relevant to its target.

1. Zarosian Empire? Assuming you're referring to Kandarin, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone ICly that views the Empire as anything but Saradominists. All of our churches are strictly so, and a good portion of RP historically has been about how there is little to no religious freedom regarding how strictly Saradominist it is. Outside of an incredibly small number, it would be metagaming to have a character believe otherwise, because it is based on something you learned OOCly.

2. None of my remarks mentioned the state of power that the white knights are in. Hell, with Saradomin walking Gielinor I figured he'd be able to draw in even more armed religious zealots with his presence alone. I.. Don't really understand these references you're making because it has nothing to do with what I typed.

3. My anti-Saradominist empire that has supported every iteration of the Saradominist church led by other members of the community since I first started leading Kandarin? Hell, as just about every leader has since I can remember with the exception of a Praven incident and some Armadyleans. How are you telling me the Empire is anti-Saradominist? What even led you to believe that?

You should read my post again and try addressing the singular question I proposed for you.
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Axel Vekon, the Eternal Emperor, the Archmage, the Lichslayer, of the Holy Kandarin Empire.

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HouseVekon

27-Feb-2019 01:39:05

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