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XSlay4DeathX
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Tenebri said :
ELITE STACK said :
I hope the rest of the media stops reporting fake racism stories too lol.


any fake stories should be stopped yes.

but i assume you have specifics, you have left out


lmao, dying from laughter.....what about lies of main stream media on covid 19 vaccines? haha omg i'm dying on how you can't pull 84-90% out of a under 1% fatality rate.

facts: 99% to survive, 1% to die and also with 7.8billion people world wide at 1% 78Million would have died, adding it x2-x5 times getting covid 19 for many, the rate is way under 1%.

^by product of greed.

Also you play this game, a game of RNG, how would you even know it worked with such a low rate of death? 99% versus the shot to aid that 1%, hmm "yes they hit that 1% and vaccine pushed them to that 99% ;) , it works"

all the evidence is right in the open for all to see. other news outlets should watch out, this fox news accountability claim could backfire onto everything known.

^another trap ;) Dominion wants accountability, it's so funny no one knows a thing on how bad this can get. "wait!!! if we are punished for this, what about that lie they told?"

it's like people don't think for themselves anymore.

I have already recognized the entire health system as a fraudulent system against people's health to aid profits over lives, media outlets are no different these days.

"In a world where trust is breaking down, worldwide, one can only guess what is being planned, a setup so big no one else knows ;) "

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You watch, a pro-vax forum mod is going to ban me again for my above claims. :D

"We have hidden another post for disinformation" reason no cure for brain washed people until the dominos start tipping backwards to prove my facts correct.

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Disclaimer; Yes i may have profiled 90% of mods to being 'brainwashed/following media lies too much'........No offence. World is divided, I have full right to state this.

07-May-2023 04:10:31

Joel
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@XSlay4DeathX,
We're not going to get into this ridiculous circle debate again over Covid are we?

You can blurt out stats on fatality rates all you'd like. It doesn't change that Covid had a very real and significant detrimental impact on health care systems around the world to the point that they didn't even have sufficient capacity to handle any other non-Covid related illnesses or procedures. That alone was a problem.

That said, that isn't really what this thread is about is it? No.

It's about how Fox News had to settle a defamation lawsuit because they knew damn well they were in the wrong about willingly and knowingly spouting completely baseless lies (as is common place for them) against another company and they've now paid a pretty high price.

So no, I'm not going to hide your post (for now) unless of course you continue to post more off topic and unfounded accusatory remarks.
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08-May-2023 16:12:45

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Why is this thread even being allowed to remain open? It's clearly a political thread. It's literally about a lawsuit (all lawsuits are political in nature) involving the corporation hired to provide the voting machines for the presidential elections (elections are obviously political).

The whole reason political threads are not permitted in the forums is that they cannot be discussed or moderated without political bias interfering and causing a divide in the community. Political threads only serve to divide the community, promote hatred, and promote biased misinformation, as demonstrated in this very thread.

What are we doing here?

08-May-2023 16:43:03

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The discussion of this thread (for the most part) hasn't been overtly and brazenly political in terms of discussing the actual election in question, the individuals running, their parties or policies etc.

It's more about media credibility and how in this case a media company has been held to account by a company who were openly defamed without evidence, that's it.

Of course it can be considered somewhat political in nature, most things can be. This isn't black and white, there's shades of grey and there's an element of judgement which is why the thread wasn't initially locked and was kept an eye on instead.

Otherwise, we'd be locking a multitude of threads here all because you could turn them more political if you really wanted to (e.g the subject of Twitter and Musk recently which could be politicized)
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08-May-2023 19:26:40

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Joel said :
It's more about media credibility and how in this case a media company has been held to account by a company who were openly defamed without evidence, that's it.
Where is that discussion being had? How can a topic of that nature even be discussed without involving the politics which lead to the situation or the outcome? You can't, otherwise it just becomes a a thread of "he said she said" without any basis being presented for the position taken.

Like, people can't defend Fox against allegations that they are "lying" because that involves referring to things that are inherently political, but people can make baseless allegations against Fox because they don't need to refer to anything political to make an accusation without a basis, so the thread just becomes a political attack campaign. Your statement "a media company has been held to account by a company who were openly defamed without evidence" can't even be challenged without referring to the lawsuit.

The thread is literally about the lawsuit, but we can't discuss the lawsuit (because that's political).

It's also problematic because political bias influences both discussion and moderation of a topic in which there is a political divide. From an outside perspective, misinformation from one side of the aisle is being ignored by moderation, while information from the one guy on the other side of the aisle is being targeted by moderation. That might not be the intent, but that's the perception that is given.

08-May-2023 20:32:40

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Kiwi Magic said :
^We don't have to hate each other. I don't like Fox News, but I'm allowed to not like them. Just get over it.
You're allowed to hate whomever you want, but you're not allowed to post hateful content on the forums, as per section 10 of the Terms & Conditions.

08-May-2023 20:35:18

Miles Prower
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Origin Nexus said :
Like, people can't defend Fox against allegations that they are "lying" because that involves referring to things that are inherently political, but people can make baseless allegations against Fox because they don't need to refer to anything political to make an accusation without a basis, so the thread just becomes a political attack campaign.


Seems a non-starter considering Fox itself couldn't come up with a reasonable defence, hence the $787.5M settlement and reason for this thread. It would be a bit odd to defend them after the fact unless an individual believes they could do a better job than Fox's own lawyers; in which case, posting such defence on a gaming forum is not going to change the outcome.
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08-May-2023 20:58:33 - Last edited on 08-May-2023 20:59:09 by Miles Prower

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This thread is discussing the lawsuit, in particular the already reached outcome and conclusion it had, not the arguments of both sides, not the legitimacy of the claims one way or the other - all that has now been determined and concluded in a court of law. That conclusion / settlement was nearly $800m so Fox could avoid going to trial.

You say there's no room to defend Fox News over the allegations of them lying when THEY themselves (including their hosts via private texts) have already acknowledged that the court had found them to be broadcasting false claims - that isn't up for debate so why you're trying to make a debate out of it or claim you can't because its overtly political just sounds as if you're trying to have a problem where there isn't one.

The statement in my previous post doesn't need to be challenged because it's not an opinion, it's based on exactly what happened.

A news company openly defamed and lied about another company, that other company then sued them and that news company decided it was better to payout than go to trial - What's to challenge? That's what happened.
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08-May-2023 20:59:48

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Miles Prower said :
Origin Nexus said :
Like, people can't defend Fox against allegations that they are "lying" because that involves referring to things that are inherently political, but people can make baseless allegations against Fox because they don't need to refer to anything political to make an accusation without a basis, so the thread just becomes a political attack campaign.


Seems a non-starter considering Fox itself couldn't come up with a reasonable defence, hence the $787.5M settlement
A settlement simply means it was more advantageous to settle the lawsuit than proceed with it. It isn't an admission of anything, and settlements on lawsuits that specifically involve politics are almost always influenced by outside politics, and settlements are sometimes even made to prevent legal precedent from being set.

You have absolutely no idea why the settlement was made, as the details of the settlement (other than the amount) are not public information, yet, you're going to claim that you specifically know why it was settled?

Have you read the actual lawsuit, and what it entailed?

08-May-2023 21:05:14

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