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^ Yeah I thought that was really interesting. I'm no expert on cameras or photo quality but I've always been told that it's not the size of the pixel, it's the quality of the software showing it, or something to that effect.

My Samsung (S21 Ultra) has a pretty good camera, though sometimes I find it a bit clunky and not super intuitive to use (and some features I'm still even discovering!) so I don't know how good it really is sometimes. I think my photos turn out good but sometimes I feel they could be better but I think it's just down to user error.
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08-Sep-2022 12:57:44

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The best camera is the one that's with you ;)



One of my favourite 'people' I've been following him for over a decade. Super down to earth.

As they say, it's more about the eye behind the camera than the camera itself. I remember when I started out people would want to talk cameras/tech all the time. In the industry it got a nickname 'gas' (gear acquisition syndrome). People thinking if they get a new lens or a new camera body that it'd be their missing piece / make their work better. Whilst I am a strong believer that you need good tools (they defo make life easier), there are limits. And some things are more practical than others. Of course this is all subjective and people can buy whatever they want to buy.

Yeah, the thing with megapixels is - if the sensor size stays the same, but they add more, that just results in a lot of small pixels (measured in microns). It can affect the amount of information the sensor can store before it fully saturates. Resulting in blown highlights. Sorta the bane of digital photography. Sometimes you can't avoid them if you want a 'correct' exposure (which is another can of worms, lol). But yeah, generally speaking lower megapixels on the same sized sensor = bigger eyeballs (pixels) which can capture more light.

Though to be fair, after all my years studying photography I no longer care about that stuff (as much). Embrace blown highlights / digital limitations. There was a point where I wanted information everywhere and my histogram had to be a certain way, etc. That kind of obsession can detract from what's really important, the image itself.

Anyway, if you think 48mp will enable you to get the shots you envisage, go for it (but I don't think it will). Unless you're a spy or something, needing to crop in super tight / weren't able to get close enough to your subject. I haven't seen any of their marketing yet, but I bet they've got photos of the moon or wildlife, lol. It'd be good for those niche cases!
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08-Sep-2022 14:12:02 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2022 14:29:11 by SlR

Brigantia

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Yeah, I get what you're saying. For example, a nice sunset is a nice sunset regardless of the definition of it. You don't need to see every wisp of cloud to get the full effect.

I like to play with instagram filters so I can adjust some measure of the photo quality/exposure/colours and that's fun but ultimately the photo quality itself - the angle, position, subject matter and how it was taken is all up to me. I can spend all the money I want on camera equipment and the like and it won't change my skill level in photography (which is zero anyway) lol

I've seen a lot of nice photos come out of iPhones, but I've also seen nice ones from Samsung. It's just the user.
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08-Sep-2022 14:41:22

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Aye. I wouldn't say you don't have skill though, everyone does! ignore the gate keepers / elitists. That's what's great about photography (or art in general); given the same scene, we'll all see it differently. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.



“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” - Picasso

https://petapixel.com/2020/06/25/shooting-an-entire-wedding-day-with-the-iphone-11-pro/ - Check this wedding out, someone photographed it with an iPhone 11.

It's how you interact with your subjects, where you position them (and yourself), lighting, direction / posing, focal length choice and distance from subject (more/less compression in terms of field-of-view), composition, timing (henri cartier bresson: the decisive moment) etc.

What concerns me about photography is the day we all have 4k 120fps camera-phones that record RAW footage. Photography will die that day. People will opt to pull stills from motion picture instead. A bit dramatic, I know, but it wont be good for photography IMO.

The other half of me says it will be good for photography, having it so accessible, we'll see talents (people) who would otherwise be 'excluded' (?) from entering the photography world. It used to have a high barrier to entry, costing so much. Now it's cheap! Comparatively...
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08-Sep-2022 15:20:32 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2022 16:03:21 by SlR

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SlR said :

48mp sounds impressive on paper but it's the 'quality' if the pixels that matter too. They'll have to do S&R firmware magic. Would you rather have a lot of crap pixels or fewer great ones? Not to say it can't have both, but generally (in photography) when one thing goes up another thing comes down.


I think they've also improved the sensor massively from what I can gather.

If they can get to a stage where you can shoot broadcast quality material on an Iphone it'll be a game changer.
It can already shoot 4k (with HDR) and they've now added the option of shooting at 24fps for a more filmic look.

I'd like one but my sensible side is telling me I could get the outgoing model for not much more than half the price of the 14.
My contract is up soon so I'll wait and see what they can offer me.
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08-Sep-2022 15:47:50 - Last edited on 08-Sep-2022 15:54:22 by Rooh

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Ask for forum-mod discount :P . If you do end up getting it, let us know what it's like!

EDIT: *backs away slowly* It's OK Kiwi, I was only joking :P



Seems promising. I'd have to see images side-by-side (13/14) to 'pixel peep' as they say.
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08-Sep-2022 16:04:27 - Last edited on 09-Sep-2022 14:43:09 by SlR

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So, based off what I understand...the IPhone 14 base model will have the same exact A15 processor as the IPhone 13 and the same camera. It is essentially the same phone, and I don't think someone with the base model 13 should upgrade to the 14.

The IPhone 14 Pro has the 48 MP camera. Is that worth it? Maybe. The IPhone 13 takes incredibly sharp photos, the amount of MP a camera has can be a gimmick since there are many other variables that are key in the quality of photos taken. Some people think the amount of MP a phone has determines MP, but that's simply not the case.

For someone coming from an Iphone 7, 8, X, or 11...I think it could be a worthwhile upgrade. I don't see it being worthwhile for anyone with an Iphone 12 or 13. Additionally, the "eSIM" is arguably a "downgrade" for folks who travel internationally and like the ability to swap sim cards.

Just my two cents. :)
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08-Sep-2022 18:57:41

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I like the airpods and look forward to upgrading to the 2 because I'm curious about the adaptive transparency I think will be cool.

Something it doesn't sound like they fixed is the volume of the alerts. They are horribly loud. I read online a trick... to reduce the ringer sound on my phone. It worked, but I miss almost all of my calls now lol.

I totally agree about how boring it was they spent like the first 40 minutes on watch and I thought it was cool... I was sold... then I got bored.
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