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NexOrigin

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Aeroxmaster said :
On the point of disinformation - isn’t it for the scientists and doctors to give us the scientific and medical facts, rather than members of the public who are not trained in this discipline to come up with ideas of their own? Presenting theories and ideas as factual, or persistently pushing them as facts, particularly in the context of medical matters for example, can be dangerous. That's who people were relying on at the start of the year. You know, the CDC, the WHO, the SG... yet, they were knowingly presenting false information as factual. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

30-Dec-2020 12:38:13

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Aeroxmaster said :
One of the questions is whether or not the ideas / suspicions are justified. Often when it comes to these theories, there isn’t enough evidence to justify the suspicions and when the effects of chance are taken into account, one wonders how such elaborate ideas could actually work in reality without encountering a problem somewhere down the line of the “complex plan”. Right. I mean, you can speculate on how government agencies could potentially hide something in space that they don't want the average person to be witnessing, but that would take a lot of effort. You would have to shut down hundreds of large telescopes all over the world. You would have to somehow create a telescope shortage, so the average consumer couldn't purchase one. You would have to shut down feeds from space bound telescopes as well, like the Spitzer Space, and the Hubble telescope.

It would all be really complicated to achieve. Although... if you look back at 2019/2020... ummm... that's kinda exactly what happened.

So are they trying to hide something? Or is it all just coincidence that all this stuff all seemed to happen at the same time? At a time, mind you, when the whole space race just started back up. No one has been to the moon in like, 40 years, but now, all of a sudden, countries are sending new rovers, and Canada even expects to have astronauts reaching the moon in 2023.

And let's not forget a certain someone recently sent an electric car into space... which is weird just on it's own.

I'm not claiming anything specific here, but, there are a whole lot of coincidences happening all at the same time... I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

30-Dec-2020 12:41:56

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How many of you remember this scene from The X-Files?

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BYERS: I'm not talking about the bunch of idiots up on the hill trying to bone the capital pages. We’re talking about a dark network, a government within a government, controlling our every move.

SCULLY: How can they do that?

BYERS: How? I'll show you how. You got a twenty dollar bill?

SCULLY: Hmmm... I'll check.

(She digs into her back pocket, looking at Mulder, who smiles back. She pulls out a twenty.)

Um-hmmm.

(She hands it to Byers and he goes over to the table. Mulder waves his hands like “I don’t know.”)

LANGLY: (still on phone) Uh-huh... yeah...

(Byers holds the bill in front of him and rips off its left side. Scully crosses over to him. Langly can still be heard intellegibly in the background.)

SCULLY: Hey!

(Mulder laughs. Scully looks back at him. Byers pulls out the magnetic anti-counterfeiting strip.)

BYERS: That's just one method. They use this magnetic strip to track you. Whenever you go through a metal detector at an airport, they know exactly how much you're carrying.
https://youtu.be/WSSl7v51j3E


Just some wild conspiracy theory fabricated in Hollywood for a T.V. show, right? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

30-Dec-2020 13:09:45

NexOrigin

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Or... maybe it's not just some wild conspiracy theory made for a Hollywood TV show:

Induction detection of concealed bulk banknotes
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0957-0233/22/10/105703


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Bulk cash smuggling is a serious issue that has grown in volume in recent years. By building on the magnetic characteristics of paper currency, induction sensing is found to be capable of quickly detecting large masses of banknotes. The results show that this method is effective in detecting bulk cash through concealing materials such as plastics, cardboards, fabrics and aluminum foil. The significant difference in the observed phase between the received signals caused by conducting materials and ferrite compounds, found in banknotes, provides a good indication that this process can overcome the interference by metal objects in a real sensing application. This identification strategy has the potential to not only detect the presence of banknotes, but also the number, while still eliminating false positives caused by metal objects.
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30-Dec-2020 13:11:05

Tenebri
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they are amusing to hear, to see what people actually believe. aka flat earth for one is amusing, lizard people another amusing one.

the lengths they go to prove it. is amusing. yet at the same time its incredibly sad. to think people get so obsessed with it to the extent its unhealthy then it loses any and all entertainment.

just like the guy who was a flat earther and made his own rocket to get high enough to see if there was a curve or not (even though there are many easier and cheaper ways to get to this with out the need to physically see a curve) and he ended up dying from it

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51602655

thats one where its a physical thing of actually dying due to i guess lack of safety measures in his home made rocket...

then there comes the ones where it is effecting them mentally which i personally dislike to entertain myself with as i see it as taking advantage of vulnerable. i thread i do own i got 10 posts hidden when i came to this conclusion which first started as humorous to me. then ended with me feeling bad. i didnt want to entice that.

especially ones where they think they know everything and have a touch on some kind of super power or a relationship with a higher being etc. this is very dangerous mindset

i could write a lot more but i wont as i will just ramble.
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30-Dec-2020 14:09:07 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2020 14:13:52 by Tenebri

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NexOrigin said :
Aeroxmaster said :
On the point of disinformation - isn’t it for the scientists and doctors to give us the scientific and medical facts, rather than members of the public who are not trained in this discipline to come up with ideas of their own? Presenting theories and ideas as factual, or persistently pushing them as facts, particularly in the context of medical matters for example, can be dangerous. That's who people were relying on at the start of the year. You know, the CDC, the WHO, the SG... yet, they were knowingly presenting false information as factual.

What false info did the WHO give? And what evidence was there to demonstrate that the information presented falsely was do so for conspiratorial reasons?

@Tenebri - yes I do worry that some people let these things get to their head and become delusional... consequences can be grave...

31-Dec-2020 02:35:04

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CM Nick said :
This thread has come close to dipping its toes in political discussion in the last few pages, please let's keep the politics out of this going forward, please! Thank you!!! :)
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31-Dec-2020 20:54:52

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Aeroxmaster said :
On the point of disinformation - isn’t it for the scientists and doctors to give us the scientific and medical facts, rather than members of the public who are not trained in this discipline to come up with ideas of their own? Presenting theories and ideas as factual, or persistently pushing them as facts, particularly in the context of medical matters for example, can be dangerous. The problem comes into play when you have two competing groups arguing over which is right. When that happens, you have to look at the evidence yourself and listen to the one that is right more often than the other.

Let's look at two scientist, bill and john. Both have science degrees, but bill is in engineering while john is in atmospheric science. Bill says one thing, while John says the opposite. 20 years ago, both made predictions on what the climate would be doing. After 20 years, Bill's predictions is off by a full degree, whereas John's is off by .1 degree. You would think that everyone would be listening to John now, but instead the people that make money off keeping people afraid, insist on listening to Bill and pushing his message.

The same happens even more in medicine, because, lets face it, it isn't rocket science. You have one group that gets power from fear, so they push the people that support that science. The people that do not, are doing better than the ones that listen to the fear.

So the question is, which is the conspiracy theory and which is the real science? The one that history fails its predictions or the one that matches the prediction.

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