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Brigantia

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Certainly sounds like it sucks! Though I'm sure there are plenty of rewards for it as well.
Arrr! Only th' Devil an' I know th' where'bouts o' me treasure, an' th' one o' us who lives th' longes' should take i' all.


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18-Jan-2021 16:40:47

FiFi LaFeles

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I come from the days when a married woman was regarded with pity (or suspicion) if they didn't drop a sprog within two years of saying "I do". A pregnant woman was required to leave work at some point before her due date, and not return. You became persona non grata.

Chances of getting a job when you had a child/children were slim and always low paid, usually part time. No Equal Rights back then, sadly.

However, in a strange way, it simplified life. There was no having to consider career choices - you didn't have any. You stayed at home and looked after the house & kids full time. Maybe had a little cleaning job or were a Dinner Lady in a local school. Unless you were very important of course, like a Brain Surgeon, or self-employed anyway.

The downside is that if your Partner didn't stick around (as in my case) you were well and truly left holding the baby. The early years were not much fun, juggling being the sole breadwinner, childcare provider, housekeeper .... maybe that's why I've got 8 arms.

Times have changed for the better, methinks :)
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18-Jan-2021 16:57:49

Brigantia

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Honestly that just sounds awful.

Proud of you for making the best of it, but that's a rough situation.
Arrr! Only th' Devil an' I know th' where'bouts o' me treasure, an' th' one o' us who lives th' longes' should take i' all.


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18-Jan-2021 17:16:40

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Averia Light said :
Funny how kids change your prirorities, eh? How many you got?

Edit: I also should not have been so one sided, because although I was talking to a female, the males also get pressure like you said - to provide. You guys have to make a choice as well - do you take on part of the parenting responsibility and take a hit to relieve your partner or you do "lean in" to get more money and be even more financially stable? It may be different, but it is still a hard choice.

I've got two. But for me, it was never a choice. Rather, a no-brainer. I'm lucky that this isn't something I've had to agonize over.

18-Jan-2021 17:45:57

Brigantia

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That's awesome for you!

I've definitely agonized over it a bit, because I feel pressured to want them. I feel like it'd be unfair to the kid(s) if I had them when it wasn't something I was 100% on. I don't feel there should be any sort of compromise on children, you either WANT them, or you should probably wait. That's just my opinion on it.

I've spent the last seven or so years coming to terms with the idea that I simply don't want them, and that's okay. If that makes sense lol
Arrr! Only th' Devil an' I know th' where'bouts o' me treasure, an' th' one o' us who lives th' longes' should take i' all.


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18-Jan-2021 18:08:48

Averia Light

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Stoat King said :
Averia Light said :
Funny how kids change your prirorities, eh? How many you got?

Edit: I also should not have been so one sided, because although I was talking to a female, the males also get pressure like you said - to provide. You guys have to make a choice as well - do you take on part of the parenting responsibility and take a hit to relieve your partner or you do "lean in" to get more money and be even more financially stable? It may be different, but it is still a hard choice.

I've got two. But for me, it was never a choice. Rather, a no-brainer. I'm lucky that this isn't something I've had to agonize over.


Haha, I bet your house is full of energy!

And I truly wish more people on both sides saw it the way you do. In my head, each partner needs to do their own version of what they need to do to be a successful parent. That varies from couple to couple, but we can clearly see a consequence of this pandemic is that childcare needs to be revamped somehow.

I'd think that remote work could be utilized at the governmental level to support working parents via offering incentives to employers for each remote worker (parent or not), but that is my own idea. I figure it would also help with the environment, congestion and probably a lot more things that I haven't thought of, but meh.
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18-Jan-2021 18:12:33

Averia Light

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Brigantia said :
That's awesome for you!

I've definitely agonized over it a bit, because I feel pressured to want them. I feel like it'd be unfair to the kid(s) if I had them when it wasn't something I was 100% on. I don't feel there should be any sort of compromise on children, you either WANT them, or you should probably wait. That's just my opinion on it.

I've spent the last seven or so years coming to terms with the idea that I simply don't want them, and that's okay. If that makes sense lol


I visit a few reddit pages and I liked the idea that it is better to regret not having children than to regret having children as only the latter includes another life.
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18-Jan-2021 18:13:46

Averia Light

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FiFi LaFeles said :
I come from the days when a married woman was regarded with pity (or suspicion) if they didn't drop a sprog within two years of saying "I do". A pregnant woman was required to leave work at some point before her due date, and not return. You became persona non grata.

Chances of getting a job when you had a child/children were slim and always low paid, usually part time. No Equal Rights back then, sadly.

However, in a strange way, it simplified life. There was no having to consider career choices - you didn't have any. You stayed at home and looked after the house & kids full time. Maybe had a little cleaning job or were a Dinner Lady in a local school. Unless you were very important of course, like a Brain Surgeon, or self-employed anyway.

The downside is that if your Partner didn't stick around (as in my case) you were well and truly left holding the baby. The early years were not much fun, juggling being the sole breadwinner, childcare provider, housekeeper .... maybe that's why I've got 8 arms.

Times have changed for the better, methinks :)


Good grief. I hope you had a strong support system to fall back on.
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18-Jan-2021 18:16:38

Brigantia

Brigantia

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Averia Light said :
Brigantia said :
That's awesome for you!

I've definitely agonized over it a bit, because I feel pressured to want them. I feel like it'd be unfair to the kid(s) if I had them when it wasn't something I was 100% on. I don't feel there should be any sort of compromise on children, you either WANT them, or you should probably wait. That's just my opinion on it.

I've spent the last seven or so years coming to terms with the idea that I simply don't want them, and that's okay. If that makes sense lol


I visit a few reddit pages and I liked the idea that it is better to regret not having children than to regret having children as only the latter includes another life.


Definitely. I'd much rather kick myself for not having one than kick myself for having one. Plus, it's not like not having kids totally removes you from being involved in raising kids. I know I'm already set up for plenty of aunt-y things to do. Haha
Arrr! Only th' Devil an' I know th' where'bouts o' me treasure, an' th' one o' us who lives th' longes' should take i' all.


@CapnBrigantia

18-Jan-2021 18:24:17

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