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Draco Burnz
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FiFi LaFeles said :


I asked him once why he'd stayed in the same role for 30 years and not moved on, or sought promotion etc. The bottom line appears to be that he hates for things to change; even at home he is resistant to small changes hence their lounge has not been decorated for 20 years as he'd find it too unsettling. Friend bought some new seating (as it was literally falling to bits) and he had a meltdown.

Is this a common theme with Asperger's, this adverse reaction to changes in environment?


Once again ppl seem to think that ppl with this disability are all the same but we are just as "different" as everyone else is to each other.

Theres just some similarities just like there is with everyone else.

As for your point, yes im the same way.

I work at a grocery store and when they change the layout, i sometimes get a bit angry and anxious as i then have to relearn where things go.

As this happens more than ppl think it can get a bit stressful.
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31-Jan-2021 13:45:42

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Wild Bill63 said :
Basically there are positives and negatives to it.


A friend of mine has Aspergers - and whilst i wouldnt say he is socially awkward, he is what id call 'socially atypical'. But all credit to him, he uses this to his advantage.
For instance, he is an excellent poker player.
Not only is he super-difficult to read, he actually does this complicated 'false tells' thing.
Its impressive. Its hilarious to watch him play. Nice guy.

31-Jan-2021 14:06:14

FiFi LaFeles

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I don't think you can blame people for being under the impression that people with Asperger's (or any other mental conditions) are 'the same' ... mainly because people without it have little to no understanding of it. Probably no first hand experience of it and very possibly no interest in getting to understand it.

They probably assume that all people with Asperger's (or other mental conditions) share the same specific traits associated with that particular condition and not consider that there's a range of symptoms which don't necessarily apply to everyone with Asperger's, or that the symptoms manifest themselves to varying degrees.

It's uncomfortable for them, so they tend to pigeonhole people who have it into a neat little compartment in their own mind .... then forget about it.

Which is why threads like these are helpful in their own small way of exploring the subject, especially when people who actually have the condition are willing to talk about it and express how they feel and behave.


...cont ....
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31-Jan-2021 14:08:07

FiFi LaFeles

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.....

For instance I thought Friend's husband was simply being lazy, or an awkward A-hole by not picking her car up.

However, Wild Bill has explained that for some people with Asperger's they do indeed need precise instruction to do something which for a non-Asperger's person would have been intuitive; that is, drop car off, pick it up when done.

So I, for one, have learned something today.
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31-Jan-2021 14:10:24

Dadizar
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My oldest son, now 29 has Asperger's. During his diagnosis it was determined i also have Asperger's.

I do a better job of appearing normal than my son does, with my biggest tells being taking everything literally (although not to the extreme that some do), and focusing on people's mouths instead of eyes when talking. I also have worked in technical fields or areas were attention to detail is very important. For me Asperger's is not a disability but a strength.

Taking things literally can be difficult here on the forums where it is more difficult to recognize sarcasm or tongue in cheek humor. Some users of these forums have helped me with this over the years, intentionally and unintentionally.

I like to think i am a regular guy and treat all fairly. My only intentional obtuseness is with my humor which can be extremely obtuse (as in the difficult to understand definition) at times.
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31-Jan-2021 21:57:45 - Last edited on 31-Jan-2021 21:59:10 by Dadizar

Wild Bill63

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@FiFi, I can't speak for everyone but I'm kind of like that but also kind of not. Like if I know something needs replacing I've got no problem seeing that it's replaced but I'm also particular about my stuff. For instance, if I have a pair of gloves that I LOVE I do not want to replace those, I will search for days and weeks to find them.

So change can be difficult but again it depends on how the individual handles it. Like I just stated above, sometimes I don't mind change, other times I do, it all depends on what is being changed and to what degree said change is.

Like I have no issues packing my stuff and moving to start over but please don't rotate the dining arrangement (chairs, the orientation of the table to the room) lol.

01-Feb-2021 05:57:26

Wild Bill63

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@FiFi another point I have to make speaking from my own experience - Some things are intuitive yet not all things.

I personally feel bad for the fact that it's not intuitive because it makes job's much more difficult. Some people may feel like they are a burden to deal with because of that, but also because when we get it wrong WE FEEL AWFUL. Getting angry at the person often doesn't help matters if anything the person who knows they got it wrong can begin to feel unwanted/unappreciated and that may literally cause the person to consider quitting the job.

In my own experience getting angry when I already feel bad kind of feels like a form of abuse so who'd want to work for an abusive jerk of a boss? No one, not even neuro-typical folks would want to work for a boss like that. Now you may ask are all bosses abusive? No. I do realize when someone is rightly upset and I try to take my error as a lesson and I'll even apologize rather than get offended (something I've learned to do). But sometimes it can feel abusive to deal with a boss who raises their voice even though it may not actually be abuse.

No one likes to feel unappreciated either. I've outright quit a few jobs over that. Personally speaking if someone vocalizes their anger to me - my effectiveness at said job drops to 0 immediately. I become worse at the job.

NOTE: I'm NOT trying to speak for everyone, I can only speak of my own experience/views/feelings.

01-Feb-2021 06:18:43

Megycal
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My eldest son was diagnosed as having some traits of Asperger's when he was 11 or 12 ( it was about 20 years ago so I forget the exact details ).When he was young living at home I'd often discover he'd gone up to his room to play. He needed his own space. He had problems with social interactions and making friends during his school years. Children can be cruel to those who are "different" so he was bullied a bit ( tbh some adults are also cruel ) but we were lucky with how the school dealt with the bullies.
I was really worried when he went to university because he wasn't streetwise but he flousished. He was with people who shared his interest ( Physics ) and who valued academic abilities.
He still feels awkward in social situations especially with large numbers of people but has learnt to cope. During his studies for a doctorate he gave a short talk at an international physics conference in India! He'd never flown before and his first flight was to the conference...I was rather stressed especially when he didn't think to let us know when he'd got back to the UK safely. :P
He's now working at a laser facility which is used by visiting research teams. His job involves data handling from the experiments. He's working from home at the moment but said he will have to go in some time in the next week or so because new "toys" ( I think that means equipment ^_^ ) are arriving soon and he'll need to check they work.
He's still a bit of a loner and prefers to live alone instead of sharing a house. Before the pandemic he would socialise with colleagues and some of the visiting scientists. As long as he is happy I try not to worry about him too much. He has a great relationship with his brother which is lovely because siblings don't always get along.

edit:I realised later some of his problems at school were due to his academic ability.He was assessed by an educational psychologist aged 9, his reading was that of a 15 y/o and maths was off chart

01-Feb-2021 10:15:26 - Last edited on 01-Feb-2021 10:24:39 by Megycal

FiFi LaFeles

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Interestingly, Friend has a son (now adult of course) who is also an absolute whizz at Maths and went on to study some branch of this at Uni.

Whilst Friend's husband has a fairly mundane job and no particular flair for anything, Son has Math Superpowers. He also displays what I would call 'traits' of Asperger's (although not to anywhere near the degree of his father).

Daughter has less than 'normal' (w/e one's measure of that is) academic inclinations but is cringingly, painfully shy. No social life, rarely speaks even in the home.

Can Asperger's actually be inherited? Or does having one/both parents with the condition predispose Child to it, I wonder?
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01-Feb-2021 11:39:42

Wild Bill63

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@Megacyl thanks for mentioning that out because it highlights how different yet similar folks with apsergers are. My own experience - I suck at all things academic. I'm literally a moron on paper. Got a 13 on the Asvab and you get 12 points for writing your name correctly, oddly enough I got a 14-16 on the ACT (again not a genius but that suggests my ACT score should have been way higher)

Though there is one thing about aspergers I disagree with. It is said that folks with autism are typically geniuses yet I have a severe learning disability. Math? LOL, failed every math class I've ever taken, Biology, passed with a D. English 2&3? Also a D. The only classes I did well in were First Responders and P.E. (obviously). Maintained an A in all of those. As stated above, on paper I sound like a total moron. Graduated dead last in my graduating class.

01-Feb-2021 17:48:26 - Last edited on 01-Feb-2021 18:04:29 by Wild Bill63

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