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Kylestokley
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Holy wrench and expensive spices added to tool belt.

An Armory added to either Fort Forinthry or a new option in the POH to store all quest weapons.

Log bank for all logs, kind of like the metal bank.

Make the dragon rider amulets ability a passive. Kylestokley

01-Jan-2024 12:00:14

Jeremy Cheng
Aug Member 2013

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Support. Having holy wrench and spices in toolbelt would be really helpful for mobs that drop lots of different noted items so I have space to pick them all up. Armory could be a new fort building sometime this year. A log bank would be a great unlock to add to the bank so I can put all the different logs I get and save bank space. Dragon rider passive would be good to get passive and has synergy with enhanced kerapac's wrist wraps and give the amulet a new effect.

Great ideas.

01-Jan-2024 12:37:08

Rikornak
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Kylestokley said :
Holy wrench and expensive spices added to tool belt.

An Armory added to either Fort Forinthry or a new option in the POH to store all quest weapons.

Log bank for all logs, kind of like the metal bank.

Make the dragon rider amulets ability a passive.

I guess quite a few of those things could make sense as additional reward space. Weapon rack in the POH should have been added years ago, but I guess they could do that with the fort.

Log bank certainly doesn't fulfill the purpose the metal one does to allow you to work with more than 28 bars at once. I guess they could add one solely for the sake of getting the logs out of the regular bank...

If the dragon rider amulet is to be made passive, only via a follow up quest or so (I mean like you could make the ring of vigour passive eventually). Otherwise we could start equipment effects baseline left and right just because we do not feel like wearing them.

Kings Abbot said :
The holy wrench and spices aren't tools, so they don't belong on the tool belt.

The spices certainly not, since they're also equipment and only work while worn - but what exactly is the difference between the wrench and quite a few other 'non tool objects' you just could add to the tool belt for convenience? Just take a look at what already is in it. A wrench at least has more of a tool feeling, than quite a few of those other objects. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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01-Jan-2024 15:56:23 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2024 16:25:56 by Rikornak

Kylestokley
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Maybe log bank is the wrong word to use but at the woodcutters grove instead of depositing logs that go into your bank it should go into a separate storage like the metal bank. It could be accessed from the regular bank and or the woodcutters grove deposit itself and logs withdrawn from it. QOL if you ask me. Kylestokley

01-Jan-2024 21:50:52

Kings Abbot

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Rikornak said :


Kings Abbot said :
The holy wrench and spices aren't tools, so they don't belong on the tool belt.

The spices certainly not, since they're also equipment and only work while worn - but what exactly is the difference between the wrench and quite a few other 'non tool objects' you just could add to the tool belt for convenience? Just take a look at what already is in it. A wrench at least has more of a tool feeling, than quite a few of those other objects.

Despite the wrench being a wrench, it isn't used for any wrenching at all.
It boosts prayer points from drinking prayer potions the same like the spices gives extra health from eating food.
It being a wrench is totally misleading...

I know there is a lot of stuff on our tool belts, and most if it is used for skilling or Slayer actions, drop cleaners or access to certain places (key ring, Arch stuff).
Boosting prayer potions doesn't seem to fit in there at all...

There are other ways to "free up" their spaces by making them a relic or something. That fits a lot better. Kings Eastwood in
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02-Jan-2024 16:37:16

Rikornak
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Kings Abbot said :
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Okay - I'll go directly since you do not get what I was up to. The infernal puzzle box - an upgradeable item - which is certainly not even remotely a 'tool' - providing you a plethoria of combat ( certainly more powerful than some slight increase to prayer regeneration) and non-combat related effects with the final upgrade being the ability to add this thing to the belt. Does it fit in the belt? Certainly not, but the ability to add it to it made the final quest reward indefinitely better - and the box itself as well to be fair.

The wrench actually is used for wrenching during the quest in which you obtain it - that's the motivation why you're obtaining this thing in the first place - afterwards it's that cost reduction thing it was usually used for in the past. So it easily could be added to the belt for wrenching during the quest and players to enjoy the prayer restoration effect afterwards.

Nobody would ever use this effect as a relic (dunno - would you?), since there are so many things, that just are better. I mean in the end it doesn't matter if the effect you just ends up being passive (like the ring of vigour) or it ends up being on the belt, where you would have the chance to check out what it does for you. But as soon as this effect forces you to sacrifice something - and a relic slot certainly is way worse than an inventory slot (since yeah - you would need a lot of prayer doses to justify that lost slot and it never could justify the loss of combat power) - it's dead. We're no longer in 2005, where prayer potions were so insanely expensive players would even consider doing that for that reason. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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02-Jan-2024 16:55:13 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2024 17:15:28 by Rikornak

Kings Abbot

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Rikornak said :
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Looking at what it does, if it were up to me, the infernal puzzle box wouldn't have been a tool belt item. You're right, it doesn't fit.

The damage reduction & boost could have been a buff similar to the boost from the Stone of Jas after completing Ritual of the Mahjarrat, or just a permanent boost not tied to the tool belt.

Seeing how the 'automatically trigger regenerate' is basically fucked after putting it on the tool belt isn't that useful either.

The puzzle box as a relic would have made a lot more sense, and still would be able to get toggled off.
Or as an addition to some mysterious pillar in the Infernal Source (or wherever it makes the most sense) to grant the effect, like a mini-relic.
Solves the tool belt issue, its space is still freed up in the inventory/pocket, and it can be toggled. A win-win-win scenario, no?



If the holy wrench isn't useful as a relic, its relic form could be boosted (combine it with other stuff or so, like the expensive spices) so people will find a good use for it.

I'm not convinced to add the wrench to the tool belt just for the single in-quest use to wrench something and a totally different use afterwards. Kings Eastwood in
THE GLOOP , THE BWIAN , and THE WIKI
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YOU-KNOW-WHO
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03-Jan-2024 16:58:12

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