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R O T S
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The difference between wreaths and phats is that the player base as well as jagex know the amount of wreaths that are in game,

If someone was to go and prove that there were more than 1000 wreaths in game (very difficult but possible to do in theory). It would be an obvious dupe and jagex would be in the spotlight to be active and do something about it, in comparison to rares where the players can only guess the total number of rares.

03-Jul-2021 15:36:27 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 23:25:17 by R O T S

Divine Gaze
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R O T S said :
The difference between wreaths and phats is that the player base as well as jagex know the amount of wreaths that are in game,

If someone was to go and prove that there were more than 1100 wreaths in game (very difficult but possible to do in theory). It would be an obvious dupe and jagex would be in the spotlight to be active and do something about it, in comparison to rares where the players can only guess the total number of rares.


I see, however I do not agree we know the number of wreaths ingame.
How would one check and prove the amount ingame? Simply buying them all does not seem realistic to me due to 2 factors, fist one being it would just cost way to much, we are not talking bills anymore but multiple trills and the second one being lets say you have the gp to buy them all, what guarantees you have them all? Might be some player in silence that doesn't wanna say anything

Based on my previous comment I don't think any rares are gonna be mass duped as gp would be more lucrative to the abusers
I do agree jagex would be under fire in the case of news like that leaking but I still feel like we would never be able to prove / know should this be the case
this is just personal opinion and speculation of possible outcomes and should not be taken as truth or facts


Interested to see your take on this
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03-Jul-2021 20:29:00 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 20:29:44 by Divine Gaze

R O T S
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Hey Divine

Yes we don't know the amount of wreaths ingame, what I meant was we know the upper bound for the number of legitimate wreath's ingame-1000.

Also yes it would be very unlikely for someone to buy all the wreaths ingame. I remember a couple of years ago there was a thread made in ID that attempted to count the number of wreaths from different players who posted. (Also very unlikely due to inactive players etc).

But if a duper for example duped 500 wreaths then it would mean we would have to find just 501 other wreaths for a proof of an illegitimate wreath. This would put a lot of pressure on Jagex to address the issue. In comparison to a phat dupe where jagex could just say "we have removed the duped phats out of the game." Enough said and who would be able to prove otherwise?

Another reason it is good to know the upper bound of wreaths in game is because maybe it also acts as a deterrent to dupers? Maybe because they might fear being caught more easily if they dupe a wreath in comparison to a phat. Also why would they dupe a wreath when they can dupe something way more valuable.

The only logical reason I could see anyone duplicating wreaths would be if phats/ higher valued item's had already been squeezed and the increased volume of these items crashed the price below the wreath.

I agree that it would be more lucrative for dupers to do gp.

But enough said from me getting back onto the topic I do love the holly wreath and I think it looks great :)

04-Jul-2021 00:51:34 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2021 00:55:03 by R O T S

Divine Gaze
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@rots
Well we seem to agree that it would not make sense to dupe any rares it be wreaths or phats or anything else; I feel like all rares are equally unlikely to be duped due to being less lucrative than pure gp and are just in general not that easy to liquidate

I don't think we would have to find 500 wreaths if 500 wreaths would be duped; currently the demand of the item seems to be fairly low so an aproximate 50% increase in quantity (and probably an even higher percentage in supply as the full quantity of wreahts is not for sale) would most likely crash them back into ge making it instant noticeable so I believe IF it where to be duped it would be in (very) limited quantities and we would never know but this in my opinion applies to pretty much any rare even those with a higher demand
(this is speculation; not facts)


This is afaik a wreath discussion thread; so I feel our little conversation here is on topic
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04-Jul-2021 01:29:12 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2021 01:30:29 by Divine Gaze

InLightOf
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Now that we know there is less than<1000 wreaths, special thanks to Amelia and Theos it makes it even more incredibly interesting. Theos<3

A kind reminder the Unofficial theme song of this thread is “69 Gotti”
Especially the music video very symbolic :P

Wreath gang :D
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04-Jul-2021 01:54:10 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2021 06:43:25 by InLightOf

R O T S
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I guess everyone has their own opinion,

I love it’s appearance because it is a very suttle and regal looking rare which is easy on the eye. I MERCH G-E said :
due to the wreaths look I believe that it should be worth 1b at max


Also divine your right I’m sure it would be very unlikely for someone to choose wreaths as their item of choice to be duped to the items demand- I just meant in theory it could be proven to be an item that has been duped since we know the upper bound of wreaths.

69 gotti gotti wreath gang

04-Jul-2021 12:24:40

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