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Divine Gaze
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B o said :

To answer your question, I'm not 100% sure myself why those prices changes happened exactly. It's is an item traded so infrequently and a few players have large stacks of it. So it makes it hard to comment on what is 'really' driving prices. Many disk trades probably aren't even recorded anywhere too.


Its actually quite easy to know what the driving factor of the prices is; its the basics of any pricing, its supply and demand
With that new disk cosmetic realease people speculated that it would crash therefor decreasing demand with about the same supply, that is the reason every rare is priced as it is
If something is beautiful, wearable, rare, desirable all boils down to the basic principle of demand
Its not rocket science to determine what drives demand for most items
As for the fact its traded infrequent can mean 1 of 3 things, there is very little suply or there is very little demand or either a combination of both but the driving factor of the price is the balance between those 2
Therefor the comparison between items is kinda irrelevant due to every item having a different supply and demand as I explained in the previous threads made by my good friend
hippie in a dashiki
where xmas scythes are compared to headslot items
Hope this helps you
Why should I hate those weaker than myself? I only pity them

02-Jul-2021 21:44:00 - Last edited on 02-Jul-2021 21:45:07 by Divine Gaze

InLightOf
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Hey Divine Gaze, I like your name. Do you appreciate the disk?

Creativity is not given to you from school. If anything school can sometimes have the opposite effect as it pre disposes people (brainwashes) to certain ideals that may not have your best interest at heart <3

I’m not saying school isn’t necessary however some of the greatest minds in the world received 0 schooling. Famous inventors etc.

I wouldn’t be where I am today game wise/RL if I listened to other people. Let’s just say that :)
”Knowledge is worth more than any amount of money” -InLightOf
“If you think the Devil is scary wait til you meet God<3,”~~~INRI~~~

02-Jul-2021 22:46:26

Divine Gaze
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InLightOf said :

Creativity is not given to you from school. If anything school can sometimes have the opposite effect as it pre disposes people (brainwashes) to certain ideals that may not have your best interest at heart <3


Lets keep conspiracy theories outside of the forums yeah? while I do agree half what we have been thought in school is bs/propaganda/unnecessary this is not the place to discuss that.

I was basically just explaining and answering a question based on common knowledge and facts in a simple way; and if you wanna refute that demand and supply is the basic driver of any price and that hoarding/rarity/beauty/wearable all boils down to one of these 2 then well... I'm sorry there is no nice way to put it so I'll refrain
If you cannot appreciate the knowledge then perhaps you should rethink your signature ^_^

To answer your question I do not persee like disks neither do I dislike them, but I do respect some people do love them and that's fine, de gustibus non disputandum est (In matters of taste, there can be no disputes)

As for creativity, I'm sorry I do not pour my creativity into forum posts I much rather keep it simple and straight forward with facts that are supported by research so everyone can understand and follow and then put creativity into playing an instrument or drawing, to be fair tho I kinda found the hippie in a dashiki a pretty creative comment eventho its a reference to a movie

While its good to question what people say, sometimes you got to accept that there's people out there that actually do know better than you and not be to narrowminded to accept facts so perhaps sometimes listen ^_^

for the creative minds out there
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03-Jul-2021 00:03:57 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 00:09:04 by Divine Gaze

Zorb49
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I would not be surprised if this new untradeable disk made the Disk of Returning drop in price. If it did, that does not surprise me. I have not kept up with the Disk of Returning price lately. A small little factor can cause panic or a drop in price on an item. It is like that in the real stock market and it is like that on the RS market. There are many instances where good news is going to come out on a stock. People expect it to rise in price when the news is officially released. What often happens is the stock will actually drop in price on the release of the positive news of that stock. Stocks often do the opposite of what everyone thinks will happen.

Even though the new disk is not the exact same and it is untradeable, I can see how it could make the Disk of Returning drop in price. The new disk is still similar, in a way, to the original disk. The new disk is based off the original disk. So, in a way, the are reintroducing the same concept of an item that already exists in game. Some people who have the new disk may not be inclined to ever buy the expensive rare Disk of Returning because they have something similar that was free. This means less demand now/in the future. It could diverge interest away from the original disk. For example, look at how many different tokens are in game now from TH. If you only had several animation tokens in game, they would be very expensive and more than they already were. Now we have all these different tokens. This takes interest away and spreads it out over dozens of tokens. The less tokens there are, the more interest there would be in those few tokens because there are less options. The more tokens (options) you have, the more potential for someone to prefer a different token than one of the original ones.

For me personally, I would not feel this way. I would prefer paying billions of gp for the original Disk of Returning that is not only very rare, but it is the original disk that has the history that comes with it.
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03-Jul-2021 00:06:24 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 00:12:19 by Zorb49

InLightOf
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@Divine Gaze you raise a very valid point

“a man who knows nothing knows something” I live by that motto as well, what I really mean though Is I don’t care what the haters think. Especially you ;)

That message is mainly for others.

If I listened to all the negativity I wouldn’t be where I am. Block out the noise stay true to yourself. My apologies for straying slightly off topic @Zorb49

Long live the Disk

INRI
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“If you think the Devil is scary wait til you meet God<3,”~~~INRI~~~

03-Jul-2021 00:45:44

B o

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Thanks @I Lack Heart ,@Weather Boy @Divine Gaze, @InLightOf, and @Zorb for your comments and thoughts - appreciate this discussion! Also quick note - but kindly let's avoid ad hominem attacks on other players and stay respectful of one another no matter a disk lover, disk hater, or neither. I'd prefer if we kept to discussing the ideas rather than calling out other players, except when it is clearly for the memes only (Legit don't want to have this Disk thread to be locked - it's a quality thread so far lmao)

@Weather Boy - I've heard from Auscricketer and Kasiak that you were a legendary OG mercher back in the day. Really great to hear your story on both merching and crypto trading, and glad that you are having a 'small reunion' even if purely by these forum posts with the other merchers that remember you from those times. Sort of wish I was around merching during the 'junk trading' period when edibles skyrocketed, sounded like it was a lot of fun- unfortunately I was still nooby at the time lol. Also really happy that you took the time to comment on this Disk thread, even if you don't actively play the game anymore.

@I Lack Heart - Disks are definitely old technology, and I am all for new and exciting technology. But if it is the "Disk of Returning" that we are referring to, my opinion is that it is the original and the best ;) - I love disks, just like how you love your Vecna skulls xD

@InLightOf Agreed - Big YES lol. Return of the disk! Long live the disk! WOO YEAAA

@Divine Gaze and @Zorb I agree with most of what you've both said - and also @zorb yeah I'd prefer paying the price just to have one of the the originals too - both for its rarity and history

03-Jul-2021 01:34:52 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 01:55:13 by B o

Divine Gaze
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@Light
I'm not a hater tho; I don't hate disks neither do I like em, they are just... there, I'm very unbiased when it comes to items like this as I do not own and will never own them; just like I don't own any tokens; its great people make money on them and I'm happy for them, just not my market I simply do not care much about non wearable items unless I can buy over 100 k of them as a collection wich lets face it, won't happen with disks. Neither do I dislike you as a person; I might dislike some of the very questionable posts made (I cannot put it differently to be within TOS of the forums) but that does not mean I don't value/respect your opinion; even if you cannot respect mine and just call me a hater if we don't see eye to eye. I'm actually happy you found 1 or more items you like I think that is great and I support your love for these items, however I don't support some of the claims you have made as they don't really hold any relevance to how things are priced and you try to state them as facts

Did you mean the saying 'The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing' by Socrates? Just slightly confused as to what you are referencing there

I'm very happy we can see eye to eye on some points as I try to only post based on research done by people that are probably much smarter than me, and I do agree people should stay true to themselves, I also agree we are straying to far of topic and we should, if desired, take this conversation elsewhere; I'm sorry if you felt attacked, targeted or uncomfortable by any of my posts things can sometimes be perceived wrongly when no body language is present :( ; and I bid you a good day sir

@Zorb
I do agree the original is usually better than the 'knock-off' I would also prefer buying an OG disc over the new one if I were to ever do so.

EDIT:
@bo
I don't wish for this thread to be locked you/Fmods are free to remove my posts/ask me to remove parts if deemed inappropriate no need to lock the thread
Why should I hate those weaker than myself? I only pity them

03-Jul-2021 01:38:01 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 01:44:36 by Divine Gaze

InLightOf
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That man Divine Gaze has some class

I respect your opinions

Much love <3

Let’s not get Bo’s thread locked I was holding back some funny inappropriate stuff :)

Update forgot to answer your question about the quote “a man who knows nothing knows something” it means your always willing to listen no matter how much you know

It’s a slice of humble pie

Cheers

@Bo, ooh she has her detective hat on <3
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“If you think the Devil is scary wait til you meet God<3,”~~~INRI~~~

03-Jul-2021 02:10:03 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 02:44:53 by InLightOf

B o

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@Divine Gaze @InLightOf - thank you both for keeping it respectful in here, I appreciate!!

Also lmao InLightOf I'm actually laughing irl, thanks it's my fave hat in the game atm (Holly a very close 2nd). But I just find it funny how you always comment when people change their pictures HAHAHAHA

03-Jul-2021 03:01:06 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 04:32:22 by B o

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Hi all,

This is just a really funny story I wanted to share from just 5-10 minutes ago, and I'm still laughing about it, but a player called 'Ragnarstone' reached out to me in game wanting to sell me a Disk of Returning after seeing my posts on forums.

After I asked what price they were after on it, I waited a few minutes for them to respond. Then they finally replied:

"Never mind. I didn't realise the one I had must have been from some new event and wasn't the original -.-"

I was laughing about it a lot, but offered my condolences to them. Ragnarstone further added:

"Saw that you were looking and glanced and thought I had it but mine is red lmao. Been at this game 17 years on and off. Thought I hit it big for once lol"

Unfortunately for Ragnarstone, they were one of players that were locked out during the 'lock-out incident' but were inactive that whole time. So they didn't even realise they were even locked out until now - when they logged back on and saw they had this red disk.

They were happy for me to share this story to the other readers of this thread, I thought it was too funny lmao

03-Jul-2021 03:50:05 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2021 04:00:19 by B o

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