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Dilbert2001
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Listening said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Again, some mobs will have their xp buffed, some nerfed. It is a rebalance, not a nerf, and a rebalance based on feedbacks of players, including "old school"ers who like more HP = more xp.

Why don't you show us the likes of banshees getting almost 4x the current xp (58 -> 217) and bloodveld from 125 -> 512 for another 400% gain?

https://runescape.wiki/w/2023_changes_to_combat_experience

It baffles me that you do not see that this is a nerf... Also if you want to talk about your banshee example, yes it has gotten 400% more xp, but it also has had it hp's increased by 400% in case you weren't aware.

Not 400% increase in hp, like 300%, but we will still be getting more xp/hp from them.

Why don't those who cry "nerf" also tell us some of them also have their stats nerfed?

28-Jul-2023 16:52:08

Dilbert2001
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Mini JIT said :
Stopicanhitu said :
Welcome to EOC 2.0 another jagex springing a major rework with no advance notice

looks like im taking another 5 year break

this isnt going to help keep players let alone bring new players in

They did not have time to inform us, the mid-year accounts just came in and the profits from selling combat dummies was not as high as they wanted so they had to rush in the changes.

Anyone who thinks the changes was done for any other reason is a dummy themself.

The change was called by the feedbacks of the community and "old schoolers" too. They clearly told us the reason, and I showed it to you on the front page of the News session of the Runescape.com website already.

28-Jul-2023 16:53:57

Listening
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Dilbert2001 said :
Listening said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Again, some mobs will have their xp buffed, some nerfed. It is a rebalance, not a nerf, and a rebalance based on feedbacks of players, including "old school"ers who like more HP = more xp.

Why don't you show us the likes of banshees getting almost 4x the current xp (58 -> 217) and bloodveld from 125 -> 512 for another 400% gain?

https://runescape.wiki/w/2023_changes_to_combat_experience

It baffles me that you do not see that this is a nerf... Also if you want to talk about your banshee example, yes it has gotten 400% more xp, but it also has had it hp's increased by 400% in case you weren't aware.

Not 400% increase in hp, like 300%, but we will still be getting more xp/hp from them.

Why don't those who cry "nerf" also tell us some of them also have their stats nerfed?

Have you looked at any of these sheets I really wonder, or are you actually this delusional and still trying to convince yourself this is not a nerf xp wise? It's literally mathematically written out there in front of you. If you still can't see that this is a nerf in terms of XP, I don't know what to tell you but I feel sorry for you in this case.

28-Jul-2023 17:11:19

Dilbert2001
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Listening said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Listening said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Again, some mobs will have their xp buffed, some nerfed. It is a rebalance, not a nerf, and a rebalance based on feedbacks of players, including "old school"ers who like more HP = more xp.

Why don't you show us the likes of banshees getting almost 4x the current xp (58 -> 217) and bloodveld from 125 -> 512 for another 400% gain?

https://runescape.wiki/w/2023_changes_to_combat_experience

It baffles me that you do not see that this is a nerf... Also if you want to talk about your banshee example, yes it has gotten 400% more xp, but it also has had it hp's increased by 400% in case you weren't aware.

Not 400% increase in hp, like 300%, but we will still be getting more xp/hp from them.

Why don't those who cry "nerf" also tell us some of them also have their stats nerfed?

Have you looked at any of these sheets I really wonder, or are you actually this delusional and still trying to convince yourself this is not a nerf xp wise? It's literally mathematically written out there in front of you. If you still can't see that this is a nerf in terms of XP, I don't know what to tell you but I feel sorry for you in this case.

Have you looked at any of these sheets, and the math I showed you on examples like Banshees I really wonder, or are you actually this delusional and still trying to convince yourself this is not a buff in xp wise for a lot of mobs? It's literally mathematically written out there in front of you. If you still can't see that this is also a buff in terms of XP for some mobs like banshees, I don't know what to tell you but I feel sorry for you in this case.

The good thing is the RS3 team made this change based on the feedbacks they received, including old schoolers. So, we are going to get what most of the RS3 community want.

28-Jul-2023 17:23:22

Listening
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Damn what a beautiful counterargument. copy pasting the stuff that I wrote. I feel like I have to make a drawing and explain it to you like a 5 year old I swear. Okay your banshee or bloodveld example. Banshees got their xp pretty much multiplied by 4 sure but so did their hp and their damage by 4. It's really not that hard. Also these lower lvl mobs, not even 1% of the game touches these anymore. All the high end stuff is NERFED no matter how hard you will try to convince me otherwise. Yes most of the community wants it cause most of the community already abused all these methods for 10 years and have 99/120/200m xp in these stats. My original point is that this change is completely contradictive to the direction they were heading to and claiming they wanted newer players to catch up more easily to the majority of the playerbase.

28-Jul-2023 17:41:11

Dilbert2001
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^^
Even a 5 year old can look at the RS Wiki page and see Banshee will have a little over 300% more hp (not 400% as you repeatedly failing to see, or pretending to fail to see). We will get higher xp/hr for some mobs like Banshees, and that's obviously a buff, not a nerf. And Banshee is just one example out of many, and I only need one example to show whoever calling this a "nerf" are just flat wrong.

28-Jul-2023 18:25:20

Listening
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Sure if you wanna be a little smartboy and be number specific then it's not a 400% increase in xp either, but whatever makes you feel better. Anyways, have fun my guy convincing yourself this is not a nerf. I'm sure there are many others that think the same way you do :P I feel like I won't get it through to you eitherway so there's no point. Also your incorrect examples are literally dead low-tier mobs that nobody ever touches but hey. If you believe people are gonna be getting 120m on banshees after, go on. But I cannot fathom how you can see the hp and xp go up and claim it's a 400% xp increase, really that's just so mathematically incorrect, it's such an insanely dumb statement.

28-Jul-2023 19:03:34 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2023 19:04:45 by Listening

Dilbert2001
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Listening said :
Sure if you wanna be a little smartboy and be number specific then it's not a 400% increase in xp either, but whatever makes you feel better. Anyways, have fun my guy convincing yourself this is not a nerf. I'm sure there are many others that think the same way you do :P I feel like I won't get it through to you eitherway so there's no point.
Also your incorrect examples are literally dead low-tier mobs that nobody ever touches but hey
. If you believe people are gonna be getting 120m on banshees after, go on. But I cannot fathom how you can see the hp and xp go up and claim it's a 400% xp increase, really that's just so mathematically incorrect, it's such an insanely dumb statement.

TYVM for contradicting yourself. There are obviously many mobs going to have buffed by the change, and when you know it when you tell us they are "low-tier mobs". In fact, many aren't low-tiers. You further exposed your mistake by telling us nobody touched those mobs. Everybody has to go through different tiers of mobs, and very often they have to touch them when they are assigned as Slayer targets etc.

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