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Dilbert2001
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@Vengeance of

The UK Parliament isn't tackling gambling or MTX specifically. Jagex has been asked numerous questions regarding their duties of care on online harms that cover lots of areas including trolling, scamming, neverending gameplay (AKA grinding). Duel Arena alone isn't online harm. However, I'll guess Jagex has the duty of care to stop serious online harms stemming like money laundering from real world trading.

01-Jan-2022 19:13:20

Lions RAWR
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Ian Adler said :

This brings up the biggest issue with the Desert Quest series, namely that Jagex finishing it would allow the Menaphite Pantheon to be brought into the Sixth Age and current Elder God Wars storyline . Two Younger Gods,
Tumeken
and
Elidinis
, plus the
bau of Tumeken
(Apmeken, Crondis, Het, and Scabaras). Icthlarin is already heavily involved in the Elder God Wars, but the Desert Quest series not being complete prevents Jagex from bringing the rest of the Menaphite Pantheon into the fray. This MUST be rectified and hopefully Het’s Oasis is a sign that a sequel to Phite Club is in the works. I do not know about the rest of you, but I want to find Scabaras, reunite the
bau of Tumeken
, and deal with Amascut once and for all.


It depends if Jagex wants to Segway into the Desert storyline with the branch from the EGW storyline happening with this update. I know that Mod osborne wants to tie up the loose ends from the EGW in the coming year ( namely what happens to the eggs, the Elder Gods Etc).

If they do bring in the desert series to the 6th age, I would like for them to talk about how Menaphos is doing in the 6th age with the new Pharaoh in control. Do they get involved in the struggle? As far as I know, no Menaphite is in EGW currently.
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01-Jan-2022 22:20:16

Dilbert2001
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Lions RAWR said :
Ian Adler said :

This brings up the biggest issue with the Desert Quest series, namely that Jagex finishing it would allow the Menaphite Pantheon to be brought into the Sixth Age and current Elder God Wars storyline . Two Younger Gods,
Tumeken
and
Elidinis
, plus the
bau of Tumeken
(Apmeken, Crondis, Het, and Scabaras). Icthlarin is already heavily involved in the Elder God Wars, but the Desert Quest series not being complete prevents Jagex from bringing the rest of the Menaphite Pantheon into the fray. This MUST be rectified and hopefully Het’s Oasis is a sign that a sequel to Phite Club is in the works. I do not know about the rest of you, but I want to find Scabaras, reunite the
bau of Tumeken
, and deal with Amascut once and for all.


It depends if Jagex wants to Segway into the Desert storyline with the branch from the EGW storyline happening with this update. I know that Mod osborne wants to tie up the loose ends from the EGW in the coming year ( namely what happens to the eggs, the Elder Gods Etc).

If they do bring in the desert series to the 6th age, I would like for them to talk about how Menaphos is doing in the 6th age with the new Pharaoh in control. Do they get involved in the struggle? As far as I know, no Menaphite is in EGW currently.


Desert folks and gods were never involved in GWD and GWD2. They never have any problems with gods (as illustrated by their allowance of the Abbey of St. Elspeth Citharede) and regions and Guthix Edicts didn't apply to them anyway. There is no reason why all of a sudden they don't want to engage in warfare again... except under the order of Tumeken once again. ;)

When Tumeken comes again, I think it is not for the "struggle of Menaphos" or EGW. It will be the end of it rather, as we will be moving to the next chapter of Guthix's Prophecy - the Shadow Breach.

02-Jan-2022 18:05:49

Ian Adler
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Dilbert2001 said :
Desert folks and gods were never involved in GWD and GWD2. They never have any problems with gods (as illustrated by their allowance of the Abbey of St. Elspeth Citharede) and regions and Guthix Edicts didn't apply to them anyway. There is no reason why all of a sudden they don't want to engage in warfare again... except under the order of Tumeken once again. ;)

When Tumeken comes again, I think it is not for the "struggle of Menaphos" or EGW. It will be the end of it rather, as we will be moving to the next chapter of Guthix's Prophecy - the Shadow Breach.


Not quite correct, I fear. The Kharidian Desert hosted several major battles between Zamorak and Saradomin during the God Wars, namely the destruction of both Uzer and Ullek. Also, recall the Kharidian–Zarosian War in the Second Age, when Zaros tried to conquer the Desert and failed only due to Tumeken's sacrifice.

As to the Edicts, they did effect the Desert - just to a lesser degree because only one God was banished. The Desert's only full-blown Younger God, in fact: Elidinis. The rest of the Menaphite Pantheon, the bau of Tumeken & Icthlarin & Amascut, are demigods and thus were not banished.

My point was that, since I assume that Tumeken will be restored at the end of the Desert Quest series, that Jagex should finish the series as - if my assumption is correct - that would make Tumeken active in the Sixth Age. Even if I am wrong, I see no logical reason why Elidinis and the rest of the Menaphite Pantheon should be excluded from the Elder God Wars seeing the important role Icthlarin has. Elidinis is Icthlarin's mother, after all, and a full-blown Younger God besides, making her far more powerful than he, and since all the other gods have joined the fun - Saradomin and Zamorak even shelving their differences in face of the Elder threat - I, again, see no reason why Elidinis and the rest of the bau of Tumeken should not take part.
Saradominist
World Guardian
emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to
Tumeken
and the bloodline of Senliten.

03-Jan-2022 01:59:56 - Last edited on 03-Jan-2022 02:40:59 by Ian Adler

Dilbert2001
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@Ian Adler

Did the desert gods involve themselves in the battles between Saradominists and Zamorakians? Absolutely not. Just that ants and roaches are "battling" in my garden doesn't mean I am involved in the "battle" and such "battle" is of any interest to me.

Desert gods, of course, engaged in the Zarosian War, but it was definitely not the God War we talked about in these 6 glorius Ages of Gielinor. When the desert was being attacked by Zaros, of course the Desert Gods wanted to defend it, but they have no interest and were not affected by the God Wars, or the Tribal Rivalries of the False Idols according to Guthix.

03-Jan-2022 18:27:25

Ian Adler
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Dilbert2001 said :
@Ian Adler

Did the desert gods involve themselves in the battles between Saradominists and Zamorakians? Absolutely not. Just that ants and roaches are "battling" in my garden doesn't mean I am involved in the "battle" and such "battle" is of any interest to me.

Desert gods, of course, engaged in the Zarosian War, but it was definitely not the God War we talked about in these 6 glorius Ages of Gielinor. When the desert was being attacked by Zaros, of course the Desert Gods wanted to defend it, but they have no interest and were not affected by the God Wars, or the Tribal Rivalries of the False Idols according to Guthix.


I think their lack of participation during the God Wars is due to lack of power as opposed to interest. Think a moment. Tumeken had fallen which left just Elidinis who, though a full-blown Younger God, had not the power to match either Saradomin or Zamorak. In short, fighting either would have been madness and getting between them pointless; and the same goes for the demigods, only much more so. Hence I think it interested them, as it must have, only they could do nothing meaningful about it other than shelter what Kharidians they could and lead them to safety. Also, if I have got my timelines right, by the time the God Wars began Amascut had already corrupted the bau of Tumeken and become the Devourer, which means that Icthlarin's hands were full dealing with her.
Saradominist
World Guardian
emeritus
My first loyalty is to protecting Gielinor. My second is to the patron of the Myreque.
My third is to
Tumeken
and the bloodline of Senliten.

04-Jan-2022 03:00:39

Dilbert2001
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Races didn't participate in warfare certainly didn't mean they were "lack of power". Seren brought the elves back to the Priffdinas to avoid the God War most definitely not because she is "lack of power" comparing to Saradomin and Zamorak, Remember, Zaros and Seren are of equal powers as we learned it from the last episode of the Battle of the Monolith. She just didn't want to fight with the false idols.

Read what the Magister said of Icthlarin and Saradomin then you should know who is stronger. ;)

Another, more active, deity is the one I have encountered many times on my journey back to the Underworld: the dog-like Icthlarin.

An interesting sort, obsessed with guarding the souls on their journey to an afterlife. He seems burdened by an ancient guilt; perhaps that is why I feel a sense of kinship with him?

I wonder if he realises the sheer power at his disposal.

If he just wanted... If he just reached out and used the vast energy flowing through his domain on a constant basis, he could rival any of the other so-called gods.

Even Saradomin himself would fall
.
- The Magister's Journal #3

04-Jan-2022 03:55:19

Dilbert2001
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The daily Tasks may be trying to telling us something interesting regarding Het's Oasis and the finale of the Desert Quest series.

Of interesting note, we are going to get many cats to patrol the Oasis... and we know Amascut is afraid of cats. Perhaps we are preparing for an attack from Amascut... or whoever is actually controlling her, as shown in the end of 'Phite Club.

07-Jan-2022 19:53:37

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