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Jack Flac
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Pulseironic said :
ShallPrevail said :

Jagex needs to get serious about PVP


pvp is in osrs, pvm is in rs3. wanna fight players head to old timey town. wanna fight something actually a challenge head to our game.
Say you don't know anything about PVP without saying you don't know anything about pvp. Actual high level pvp in EoC is harder than any boss out there. I'd like to see anybody in this game be a top level pvper blindfolded or using meme controllers like some players mess around in pvm doing currently.
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06-Nov-2022 06:37:20

Pulseironic
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Jack Flac said :
Pulseironic said :
ShallPrevail said :

Jagex needs to get serious about PVP


pvp is in osrs, pvm is in rs3. wanna fight players head to old timey town. wanna fight something actually a challenge head to our game.
Say you don't know anything about PVP without saying you don't know anything about pvp. Actual high level pvp in EoC is harder than any boss out there. I'd like to see anybody in this game be a top level pvper blindfolded or using meme controllers like some players mess around in pvm doing currently.

truly dont care one bit for pvp in any runescape related gaming i do. back when i first started it was who had the max hit luck or special spam, which it still is in osrs. in rs3 its either bug abuse, uneven jumping, or griefing for the sake of it. one reason i do and dont like the new wilderness, never liked not knowing when someone was gonna teleport in from off screen using dive and dash and kill me faster than a pvmer does a gw2 boss.

06-Nov-2022 07:50:37

ShallPrevail
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Talk about PVP is nice and all but please stay on topic.

Jagex is the problem when it comes to PVP, not the players and cross-world is surely not the fix for this situation.

- The longer they wait to approach this clear problem the more players they will upset, and that in itself will lose them so much money they could almost never imagine, I myself would have bought so much merchandise and other things from Jagex, I would have bought my IRL friends stuff, if Jagex actually cared about the game AND the players, but they don't. Adding false presence players around the game is NOT the fix, it's just fake hype.

- I truly do believe they use things like the wilderness transformation and such to falsely advertise the *good things* that used to be in the game, without actually making the content GOOD, which is what I believe cross-world would also be a subject of, when in fact they just tear the RuneScape community apart even more, the old wilderness in itself was more creative than almost anything else in their game.

I understand it's *supposed* to make things better, but just looking at RS3 itself, it was *supposed* to be better and 10 years later OSRS is 3-4X more populated. Because RS3 wasn't done properly, rushed and had an undefined identity that had many flaws. Just like this cross-world proposal Jagex has displayed.

It's sad that new players *if any do come* won't ever get to experience the wilderness in it's true form, and I would hate to see that happen to our current world concepts.
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06-Nov-2022 14:27:16 - Last edited on 06-Nov-2022 14:46:05 by ShallPrevail

Pachuli714
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I can see this as having so much potential for failing so miserably, I almost hope they do go ahead with it for all the laughs it'll provide. Even if I find that I can't log in for a couple of months, it'll be worth the break from the game.

17-Nov-2022 12:13:10

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Pachuli714 said :
I can see this as having so much potential for failing so miserably, I almost hope they do go ahead with it for all the laughs it'll provide. Even if I find that I can't log in for a couple of months, it'll be worth the break from the game.


It is just a very small game jam project. Even the Jmods who work on it said they have bigger plan but time is not allowed them to make their idea even bigger.

Who is going to laugh? In the end when this RS3 game jam idea is released, all those who are interested in engaging in Cross World Visual Presence, instead of just dull lobby chat will reap the benefits. Only the ones who can't walk the walk and deliver nothing will be laughed at.

17-Nov-2022 18:37:25

ShallPrevail
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@Pachuli714

I agree but at the same time it's just sad to see, I'm a huge community person myself which is why I stuck by RuneScape for so long but it's becoming more and more solo focused, and the community itself has suffered largely from this.

Not to mention the fact they can't even support PVP/minigames even when it's sitting literally in their own game, really put's a question mark on what really is funny in this situation.


The more Jagex tries to hide their problems, instead of focusing on RuneScape and how to make it better will only make their problems larger, until then we shall discuss having invisible players being added in the game, I guess....... BUT hopefully not.

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21-Nov-2022 00:40:53 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2022 00:45:03 by ShallPrevail

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I mean, let them implement it but with a setting to turn it off and to not be seen on other worlds.

Pros: I could see this being great for content that doesn't have any matchmaking support. or instances. I think if they didn't introduce the new games around the world concept, it would be great to see other players in the games room throughout every server. The instance is never used so that fix never really worked.

Cons: I could see it being abused in some way some how. Maybe have it so if your online status is set to friends to off, you dont show up.

21-Nov-2022 01:10:18 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2022 01:12:27 by TnC

Mikaiola
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I really thought this sounded like a great idea when they first mentioned it, but now that you say it, I do understand about it being a bandaid fix. I just came back after a several-year break, and the loneliness hit me very quickly. It's definitely not the same as it was back in the day when hundreds of people were crowded around the Varrock and Falador banks with different colored text calling out what they were buying and selling. I'm completely dumbfounded by how long I can spend fishing at Catherby beach without seeing another player. And the amount of time it can take to buy or sell something on the GE can be so much longer than it used to be. I just can't believe that I can post a request to buy lobsters, and sometimes I don't get them immediately. And I have yet to go by the Lumby cow pen and see anyone killing cows. Maybe if you've been playing for a long time you don't notice the numbers gradually decreasing, but coming back after a long break, it hits very hard and it really is sad to see how few people there are. It doesn't have the same feel that it used to. I think what they're proposing could be a good temporary fix, but I do agree that they need to focus on bringing new players back to the game.

25-Nov-2022 22:19:12

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ShallPrevail said :
- Please do not try to bring a conclusion that the community isn't getting smaller, it surely is and Jagex's attempt to lure players into making multiple accounts to try and make the #'s look similar to past ones will not last. -


I don't think it is healthy to stop everyone who may differ from your opinion with this statement. That just means you are set in your own ways and nothing that anyone says can change your mind, thus everyone is wrong unless they agree with you.

ShallPrevail said :

To conclude, I believe this will drive the community
more away
from each other. Eventually bringing a less social environment and thus losing even more players. Jagex shouldn't try to stray away from the original RuneScape concept, and for whatever reason they have done this at an alarming rate just this year.


How though? How does this update lose more players according to you?
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As for your thread: I think that the idea sheds light on the J mod's ability to look at the game differently. Seeing people around you, even if they are on a different world, reminds me of the soul games and that is pretty cool. Why hop to the world when they could appear next to you? It would make the " small community" Feel closer together and for me that is good.
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27-Nov-2022 06:49:13

ShallPrevail
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@Mikaiola

Nice to see someone who doesn't just follow suit, it's difficult as RuneScape is a longevity game and it takes a while to notice how bad Jagex really takes care of the community, as we are blinded by the loyalty the old Jagex used to have.

Unfortunately, it get's worse the more you play, it seems like they're actually removing more than they're adding to the game. It's just a company with a lot of excuses and tries to hide the faults that are increasing daily, by their own ignorance and money manipulation tactics. In a grind vest game, it's easy to make things boring and make certain things pop out to players to entice them to buy things, as they are bored and don't really think about why. This is what RS3 is now.



@ Lion Rawr,

clearly the game is depleting drastically, RS3 runs low 10k players and high 30k players, this is extremely low and people coming into this thread trying to declare *recent rises* in a Corona virus pandemic, Jagex influencing players to create and play on multiple accounts ERA is DRASTICALLY INCORRECT INFORMATION AND DECLARATION. and I get it on my threads all the time from the same people.

And am I wrong? clearly if I was you would implement it but thanks for the small flame.

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You can't just conclude that J mod's looking at the game differently is a good thing, this is a very poor theoretical destructive take toward someone's MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE paragraphs explaining in detail on how it is a bad idea.

And thanks for bringing that up, RS3 is literally destroying all the good it once had and is taking smidgets of game updates from other games that comp[ement Jagex's depleting populated PVM style game that is now RS3.

PVP? Minigames?

PVP is dead and minigames are replaced with very core and boring SOLO D&D's. Aside from that you get the same quests and PVM updates that we once did before.

It's so bad the recent podcast, they tried to declare RS3's focus is on SOLO

Once again thanks for the small FL~
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28-Nov-2022 15:39:16 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2022 15:43:01 by ShallPrevail

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