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Knight Scope
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Knight Scope

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The Jagex Forum World Guardian said:
We don't waste anything burning Elder Logs. We get xp as well as Yak Track progress among other benefits doing so. This is especially good when we get bonus xp from every Yak Track and it stacks with Knowledge Bombs, especially making skill training during Yak Track pretty close to DXP. Brawling Gloves stack too, and they can't be used in DXP Live. So essentially we get much better xp with Brawling Gloves FMing than even in DXP Live! Great deal and great time to do it now actually.

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Nobody said burning elder logs was a waste. Waste referred to the 4 hours 30 minutes time for skill and kill on task 57. If a person had to spend that much time just in order to get to the next track, that person would think it was a waste. At elder log drop rate, even with dwarven chainaxes; it would take over 7 hours just to obtain the 1350 logs to do task 57 and YIELDING ZERO EXP. AND that IS a waste. Far better to use that time on crystal trees as far as wood cutting exp is concerned. As far as FM exp is concerned, burning elder logs IS a waste when Accidental Fletching yields 3x the exp per hour, 6x the exp with brawlers.

03-Mar-2023 01:13:44

Dilbert2001
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The Jagex Forum Attacker Knight Scope said:
Nobody said burning elder logs was a waste. Waste referred to the 4 hours 30 minutes time for skill and kill on task 57. If a person had to spend that much time just in order to get to the next track, that person would think it was a waste. At elder log drop rate, even with dwarven chainaxes; it would take over 7 hours just to obtain the 1350 logs to do task 57 and YIELDING ZERO EXP. AND that IS a waste. Far better to use that time on crystal trees as far as wood cutting exp is concerned. As far as FM exp is concerned, burning elder logs IS a waste when Accidental Fletching yields 3x the exp per hour, 6x the exp with brawlers.

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We can always buy Elder logs from GE. If you are an IM, you will more than likely need to WC your own logs to progress your character anyway. There is no waste of time as the logs you chopped aren't just for a Yak Track. You still use them gain xp.

03-Mar-2023 01:41:13

Roddy Piper
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By limiting all those tasks to Elder/bamboo and driftwood they are seriously expecting me to go chop Elder logs to burn later. There are like 6 driftwood on an island. I had thousands at one point but I ain't getting more.

The other form of driftwood I couldn't even find on the wiki, but it doesn't even matter because I am not participating in any way.

Normal bamboo is not a problem, but it's the only reasonable choice unless you were already gonna chop golden, or for some strange reason actually attempt to chop down an Elder tree.

The dwarven chainaxe doesn't count for progress on the tasks.

Beyond anything else, considering all the effort folks put into collecting the existing Elder Log supply, it would be almost criminal to buy them on the GE to make a campfire.

03-Mar-2023 03:23:32

Dilbert2001
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Frankly buying logs from the GE to complete the FM task is the best option. It costs some gp but it saves the time to do my favorite money making thing and usually gives me more net gp, far more than chopping elder logs myself.

Golden Bamboo is actually very fast WC xp. I don't know why not if somebody need WC xp. It is also very easy to get Golden Bamboos too. I have 2 of them on my player owned uncharted island. That's 200 of them daily. It is also quite easy to use stockpiled supplies to look for voyages to get more golden bamboos to chop.

As for collecting driftwoods. This actually isn't a bad idea. It may be a bit tedious but it may be quite worthwhile for players who want chimes. Often we can re-roll daily The Arc challenges and get the "collect 4 driftwoods" for an easy 350 chimes tasks.

The good thing is not only do we have 2 options for each tier of Yak Track now, we are also getting more and more optiosn to combo it with lots of other game content and events. Literally, we are killing many birds with one stone doing Yak Tracks now.

03-Mar-2023 03:57:14

Dilbert2001
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Mellothello said :
Irritating that dwarven chainaxe doesn't help with reaching total. I cut two logs, it should count as two logs.

It won't bother OP though because he is talking about FMing with Elder logs. We can always get double logs with Dwarven Chainsaws when we can get them before a Yak Track.

03-Mar-2023 16:04:37

Roddy Piper
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Well it does bother me, it is directly related. I'm talking about making them the only non-arc log for both tasks.

Even more it highlights this strange problem we have with woodcutting skill improvements. They say it is impossible to make a new hatchet because it is based on chopping speed of the hatchet.

The speed of chopping is no way a factor to me. It is the success rate, which approaches unplayable as early as maple logs in their current system.

Like I can get a log in one chop, or it might take 500? Am I supposed to re-click 500 times and hope for the best? What does the game expect from me, other than to click a tree and do something else IRL while I wait. Because there is no value in watching my character chop high level logs.

03-Mar-2023 16:20:12

Dilbert2001
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Roddy Piper said :
Well it does bother me, it is directly related. I'm talking about making them the only non-arc log for both tasks.

Even more it highlights this strange problem we have with woodcutting skill improvements. They say it is impossible to make a new hatchet because it is based on chopping speed of the hatchet.

The speed of chopping is no way a factor to me. It is the success rate, which approaches unplayable as early as maple logs in their current system.

Like I can get a log in one chop, or it might take 500? Am I supposed to re-click 500 times and hope for the best? What does the game expect from me, other than to click a tree and do something else IRL while I wait. Because there is no value in watching my character chop high level logs.

Why don't you chop bamboos then? They are fast, nice, easy and high xp.

03-Mar-2023 17:12:12

Dilbert2001
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Let me summarize my opinions on what are good for different kinds of players doing this FM task:

(1) For Ironman, just do whatever WC activities before a Yak Track you normally do, and stockpile Elder Logs and/or Bamboos/Golden Bamboos of your choices, including getting free logs from the Priffdinas Ent and WCing in your Playered Owned Island.

(2) For players progressing in the Arc, of course Bamboos and Golden Bamboos are excellent choices, as they are near, if not, the best xp/hr in WC anyway. Collect driftwoods on uncharted island especially when you roll a super easy "collect 4 driftwoods" daily challenge and be rewarded a hefty 350 chimes whenever possible.

(3) For time concerning players, buying Elder Logs from GE should be the best choice.

(4) For Wildy loving players who may have good chances to get their hands on the invaluable Brawling Gloves, Yak Track is the best time to use them as their xp bonus stacks with Yak Track bonus and Knowledge Bombs.

(5) For those "I just care about playing RS3 my normal way but still want the great Yak Track rewards", of course, Skilling and Killing is a Guthixsend.

04-Mar-2023 15:46:01

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