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Dilbert2001
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How surprising is it to see most of the top 10 money making methods in RS3 are high-end high-level bossing? They require real talents and are click intensive and can't be botted. Also of note, non-boss slayer mobs like Ripper Demons give very high gp/hr and are manageable for more causal pvmers with lower talents. The RS3 Wiki pretty much reflexes the accurate in game sentiments of such money making methods.

"All prices are calculated using current Grand Exchange market prices, meaning the actual profit per hour may vary greatly from what is stated here. If you notice a discrepancy between profits listed here and profits listed on guide pages, it is likely a caching issue. You can force this page to update by clicking here (note that it will take a few seconds to load)."


https://runescape.wiki/w/Money_making_guide

The RS3 Wiki has shown us what their calculations are based on. Of very important note is they also presented the ROI of each method, which is very important for statistical purposes, to show how difference the individual result of smaller samples can be very different, while many less ethical similar guides from other games totally omit such important factor to "scam" their users.

All money making guides can't the future into considerations, as nobody can accurately tell us what future prices and how many of items can be sold for. I don't know how this can be a scam. On the contrary, if I saw a money making guide telling me how much I could sell a Elde Frame for and how long it would take to sell it in the future, I would have concluded without a doubt it was a scam. :D

27-Nov-2023 16:31:32

Kings Abbot

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I feel this inspiration quote is perfect for this thread:


Always use common sense, certainly on the internet.
Critical thinking seems to be rare these days... Kings Eastwood in
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28-Nov-2023 16:37:03 - Last edited on 28-Nov-2023 16:38:09 by Kings Abbot

Kings Abbot

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To add, it doesn't mean that those methods mention hourly profits that they have to be done for hours. It's just a way of comparing methods.

There's a bunch of methods listed as 'recurring' which can't be done for an hour due to some limits, even though an hourly profit is given (by calculating from how much is earned during whatever time they can be done for).

Some methods are better suited to do for like a couple of minutes, while the rest of the time could be spent on another method that has a lower money yield, but can be done for longer withouts such risks. Kings Eastwood in
THE GLOOP , THE BWIAN , and THE WIKI
music by Trewavio Morricone
YOU-KNOW-WHO
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29-Nov-2023 16:42:54

Dilbert2001
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Kings Abbot said :
To add, it doesn't mean that those methods mention hourly profits that they have to be done for hours. It's just a way of comparing methods.

There's a bunch of methods listed as 'recurring' which can't be done for an hour due to some limits, even though an hourly profit is given (by calculating from how much is earned during whatever time they can be done for).

Some methods are better suited to do for like a couple of minutes, while the rest of the time could be spent on another method that has a lower money yield, but can be done for longer withouts such risks.

You are not wrong, and that's why the RS3 Wiki's Money Making Guide is quite spot on, as almost all the top money making methods (as least to 60 or 70 I looked at) are for permanent recurring content. Perhaps the lone exception is "making Blood Reaver scrolls during the Amlodd Voice of Seren" because there is a 25% chance or so Voice of Seren is on Amlodd. In that case, while the Voice is not on Amlodd, the profits of making scrolls should be 5/6 of the listed 86 mil gp/hr or a "lousy" 72 mil gp/hr.

29-Nov-2023 16:56:17

Bruce Waayne
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So most rs guides are wrong weather it be video, rs wiki, forums w/e because this game is based on RNG so ofc the guide is gonna tell you the best xp rates possible and lie about GUARANTEED xp / GP per hour which we all know is bs. PVM money making methods are REALLY full of shit because that will only be consistent if you get guaranteed drop like dragon bones for example, if you do META for killing drags and can bank a crapton of bones per hour then you MIGHT make what that guide is saying for gp rates, but even then sometimes you are not 100% focused so your rates drop, and if you dont know how to tick (like me) or even know what ticking is well then GF your not gonna make what those BS rates claim you will make. Dont believe anything until you try it for yourself, trust nobody.
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30-Nov-2023 00:29:29

Tenebri
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Bruce Waayne said :
So most rs guides are wrong weather it be video, rs wiki, forums w/e because this game is based on RNG so ofc the guide is gonna tell you the best xp rates possible and lie about GUARANTEED xp / GP per hour which we all know is bs. PVM money making methods are REALLY full of shit because that will only be consistent if you get guaranteed drop like dragon bones for example, if you do META for killing drags and can bank a crapton of bones per hour then you MIGHT make what that guide is saying for gp rates, but even then sometimes you are not 100% focused so your rates drop, and if you dont know how to tick (like me) or even know what ticking is well then GF your not gonna make what those BS rates claim you will make. Dont believe anything until you try it for yourself, trust nobody.

not really, it uses averages to make the estimated gp ph. obviously rng in low numbers makes things varied a lot, but over time, the law of averages will keep up.
that is what it is based on. you saying its lies is just disinformation (a lot of that going around lately)

here is my alt with 811k abyssal demon kills.

it has 796 abyssal whip drops. (expected is 792) almost exactly on drop rate.



you cant expect to go to telos at 999% enrage for only 1 hour and get 49m, thats silly.
but if you telos 999% enrage for many hours it will average out to be 49m with current prices.

that is what it means.
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30-Nov-2023 00:52:37

Saryssa
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MineMineMini said :
Ior B) They listed this money making method without even testing it

They probably did test it immediately before posting it.

And a lot of people would have seen the new method and thought "here's an opportunity to make money". Just like you did.

Here's what likely happened after that.

* The increased demand for the materials you need to purchase has pushed the costs up.
* I have no doubt that some opportunistic merchers & merching clans quickly seized the opportunity to buy up any low priced mats to flip them for a higher price.
* The increased supply of the output would push the selling price down.

So you're being squeezed on both ends of the deal - not by whoever posted that on the wiki, but by other people just like you jumping on the same opportunity, along with the "help" of a few merching clans.

That's going to happen with any new money making method on the wiki that doesn't rely on RNG. Other people are going to be using the same methods, thus squeezing the profit margin.

A safer bet is to go down the list a bit, pick a method that's not one of the highest earners, and then testing the method yourself to check the GE values are reasonably close to what the input & output actually buy & sell for. It also helps if you enjoy the skill(s) involved. Don't try to make money with a skill that you can barely tolerate. Cranky old woman

30-Nov-2023 06:36:16 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2023 06:42:09 by Saryssa

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