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Ms Toxicity said :
Let's not derail the thread with a debate, about which advice is correct.

Trading RS display names for GP is a trust trade, which players enter at their own risk.
With the coming of 'Jagex accounts' there is a significant difference which determines the legal side of said trade. Since there's no announcement at Jagex's Official Website to be found anywhere this discussion/debate is of great importance.

17-Dec-2023 14:58:56 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 14:59:26 by 2_Tron

Tenebri
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2_Tron said :
@Tenebri, show us ... where on '
Jagex's Official Website
' where Jagex announces that it is allowed to '
sell and buy character names
' and provide us a link to that page where it is specifically written by Jagex .

You also are free to search;
'
Rules of RuneScape
'
'
Terms & Conditions
'
'
Privacy Policy
'
etc. etc.



ive posted what jagex has said already many times, it doesnt have to be on the official website. their twitter feed from the runescape account, is also official stances from jagex.
idk why you want to go into debate over this. but this will be last post now. as this is just getting silly.

Tenebri said :
here i found a tweet. which does back up what i was saying.





Ms Toxicity said :
Let's not derail the thread with a debate, about which advice is correct.

Trading RS display names for GP is a trust trade, which players enter at their own risk.


yes definitely. especially when what jagex have said about the issue has been posted many times already lol
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17-Dec-2023 15:01:29 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 15:02:49 by Tenebri

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Sadly you wanna ignore 9 years of changes to RuneScape including changes we are going through right now with Jagex accounts. Time didn't stood still hence why many players are asking over and over again what they are up against after these changes have fully taken place.

17-Dec-2023 15:06:06

2_Tron

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Tenebri said :
2_Tron said :
@Tenebri, show us ... where on '
Jagex's Official Website
' where Jagex announces that it is allowed to '
sell and buy character names
' and provide us a link to that page where it is specifically written by Jagex .

You also are free to search;
'
Rules of RuneScape
'
'
Terms & Conditions
'
'
Privacy Policy
'
etc. etc.



ive posted what jagex has said already many times, it doesnt have to be on the official website. their twitter feed from the runescape account, is also official stances from jagex.
idk why you want to go into debate over this. but this will be last post now. as this is just getting silly.

Tenebri said :
here i found a tweet. which does back up what i was saying.



Tenebri, I have checked the validity of your claim.




'
RuneScape Twitter
' isn't an official representation of Jagex/JMods anymore. Just a '
presentation of RuneScape
'.

Said presentation, only goes as far as '28 jul. 2017' and after that ... there aren't any messages to be found anymore.

17-Dec-2023 15:33:51

Bruce Waayne
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Sounds like a scam. Tell that guy to go...

PS: In the survey there was talk about being able to grab display names you want and reserving them or some such from inactive accounts. Hopefully that comes to fruition so i can grab the name i want.
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17-Dec-2023 18:04:54 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 18:05:57 by Bruce Waayne

Mega Duck
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Lets look at the situation from another point of view:

- The name and in-game currency both exist within the game.
- Someone is proposing in-game currency in exchange for you changing your name


regardless of their intention to take the name afterward, the old name becomes available to everyone.

In a hypothetical scenario, if someone offered me 100m gp to alter my name merely because they disliked it, or found it offensive, would that constitute real-world trade? Not at all.

However, if they offered me real-world currency, say £100, to change my name based on their preference, that would indeed be classified as real-world trade because actual currency has exchanged hands.

So with that said, the scenario you explained is classed as a trust trade which is not against the rules. If you wish to accept the trade, that is your own responsibility and you should exercise caution as there is no "safe" way to complete this trade.

-

It's worth mentioning, that while this kind of trade isn't directly mentioned within the rules, there is a distinct similarity between trading your name and gold swapping between servers, which IS listed in the Rules


What everyone else failed to mention though, is that there is a rule pertaining to this.

Drum roll please!


So yea, do your due diligence.. It's highly likely that this person is trying to scam or trick you, since the name "H O N D A" isn't typically classed as a "rare name."

Hope my ramblings helped you in some way! ^_^
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17-Dec-2023 20:19:06 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2023 22:01:01 by Mega Duck

2_Tron

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'
RuneScape Wiki
'

Once a user has chosen a new display name, their old one will be reserved for at least 35 days. For the first 24 days it isn't possible to change the display name without using a bond, so they've got at least a week to return to their old name if they wish to do so. Once 35 days have passed, the old display name will no longer be on hold and can be taken by others.


So in essence, how big are the odds that you will succeed in obtaining a display name?

Trading your name is virtually impossible as you have no knowledge when a name is freed up, not even Jagex/JMods offer such information. It is at best a guessing game and you will loose money that's for sure.

It is certainly not 'swapping' as you aren't trading between 2 seperate versions of RuneScape, gold and items, which swapping means.
You are attempting to sell or buy Jagex account related information.

17-Dec-2023 20:50:18

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As per '
Rules of RuneScape
' ...

A few lines outlined that proves even by those rules it is prohibited/against the rules ...

Scamming

It is against the rules to try and obtain items or Gold (GP) from other players by scamming them. By ‘scamming’ we mean tricking or deceiving other players for your own advantage. Although scams come in many forms, these are some common examples of behaviour that could lead to your account being muted or banned for scamming:

- Asking other players to give you something with the promise that they will receive something in return and then not supplying it

- Asking another player to trade you anything in order to ‘trust you’ or for some other thing to happen (such as winning a prize for trading the most valuable items)

- Anything else that uses scamming techniques, dishonesty, misdirection or similar and results in a player losing items or wealth that they did not expect to lose


Even trust trades are prohibited/against the rules as written still players repeat that it is OK but it is not. Trust trades are against the '
Rules of RuneScape
'.

17-Dec-2023 20:58:22

Mega Duck
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2_Tron said :
Trading your name is virtually impossible as you have no knowledge when a name is freed up, not even Jagex/JMods offer such information. It is at best a guessing game and you will loose money that's for sure.


This isn't correct. the 35 day rule only applies if the holder doesn't change it again.

If they change their name again before the "last known as" name disappears, it releases the name before the 35 day period.
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17-Dec-2023 21:02:47

Mega Duck
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2_Tron said :
As per '
Rules of RuneScape
'
A few lines outlined that proves even by those rules it is prohibited/against the rules ...


That is scamming in general and doesn't prove the question by OP is against the rules. Trust trades are allowed on both the forums and in-game.

2_Tron said :

Even trust trades are prohibited/against the rules as written still players repeat that it is OK but it is not. Trust trades are against the '
Rules of RuneScape
'.


Scroll a little further down :)



"Swapping" in this context is also classed as trust trading
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