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2_Tron

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Bertel62 said :
2_Tron said :
Real World trading (RWT) means buying or selling in the real world, for real money
Yes. It does not mean buying or selling in the game, for in-game money, which is what the question is about. 2_Tron said :
As per '
Rules of RuneScape
...

REAL WORLD TRADING

Real World trading (RWT) means buying or selling in the real world, for real money, things that relate to Jagex accounts. This includes:

- In-game items
- In-game Gold (GP)
- Account names
<-

In addition, paying someone to play your account for you is covered by this rule.

Everything in RuneScape and Old School RuneScape, including the account(s) you use to play the game, are owned by Jagex. Players are given permission to use these accounts by Jagex. However, Jagex do not give permission to anybody to sell or buy things that relate to Jagex accounts.


Your account will be investigate/actioned as the other side of said trade ... I thought so, the cherry-picking has begun. However, players seem to forget about a piece of text that is there but not for the fun of writing.

'
Everything in RuneScape and Old School RuneScape, including the account(s) you use to play the game, are owned by Jagex. Players are given permission to use these accounts by Jagex. However, Jagex do not give permission to anybody to sell or buy things that relate to Jagex accounts .


An account name is 'NOT' an item, it isn't obtainable through gameplay, my best guess is that it '
relates to Jagex accounts
'.

Nowhere on Jagex's Website it says that it is legal to buy or sell account names ... that is your assumption and that Jagex/JMods aren't doing something about it is your assumption as you haven't any proof.
So the best thing to do is keep those rules at heart and respect them for what the are.

15-Dec-2023 07:45:02

Tuffty
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2003

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First mistake you did was name the name you are asking about. Now the Name snipping bots will be all over it ready for you to change names.

You won't beat the bots no matter how fast you feel you are or how fast the New Owner might think they are. The Bots are waiting for names to be changed and snipe it so fast.

Second it's a Trust Trade and thus can't be done via the Forums. Thats a Rule been on the forums for years. Just pointing that out as any threads selling user names are locked under the Trust Trade Rules.

It's my understanding of the long standing rules that it can be done for ingame GP but done at your own risk. There is NO comeback for the Bot Snipers getting the name before the New Owner does. It's done at your's and their own risk.

Me personally I would not do it as a few have said it will trigger off or MAY trigger off the RWT detection because of the sum of RS GP traded. It could lead to both accounts banned.

It is not worth the risk. Comprehensive Account Security
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15-Dec-2023 11:15:59 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2023 11:16:49 by Tuffty

Jared
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Personally I don't think the risk lies with Jagex. There is no precedent for someone getting banned for selling their display name exclusively for
in-game GP
. I didn't buy my display name so I don't know 100% how it works, but I believe the real risk lies with all the bad actors in the name selling community in addition to the name sniping bots.

For example, for a name like mine there is no way I would ever be able to move it to another account. It's a common 5-character first name. It would be snapped up by a name bot in less than 1 second. Even if it's not, it's "worth" so much GP that there is a high risk that anyone buying it has some or all of the cash stack tainted by RWTed GP.

For all the name buyers/sellers who get banned and cry on reddit, Jagex has responded to those threads to let everyone know that they were banned for handling RWTed GP tied to the name sale, or they tried to sell the gold themselves afterwards.

Jagex isn't going to action someone for selling their display name for GP. It's ill-advised because of the other side of that coin, the community. If a name is rare enough, it's simply too risky to sell.

15-Dec-2023 21:12:02

Scouse
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Archaeox said :
A transaction that size for no in-game item will IMMEDIATELY flag your account for investigation by Jagex, and if the money used to pay you was obtained by dubious means could result in your account being banned.

In any case, this is a trust trade, which is by definition extremely risky.

Don't do it.

The thought of Jagex taking the time to ban an account which has personally took a risk to participate in something that they refuse to ban as a thing to do while knowing how high the possibility of a scam is but still ban the legit player who just received money unknown to them may have been made through illicit ways rather than just not allow the sale of rsn's.

Do it at your own risk is a fuckin dumb excuse, just say no, it aint hard.

Much love

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16-Dec-2023 01:04:55

2_Tron

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Buying or selling account names ... is buying or selling '
Jagex's Digital Property
.

A '
character name
' does 'relate' to a 'Jagex account', not to RuneScape specific but in the future to other games too.

16-Dec-2023 08:48:13

Tenebri
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Its a very grey area. Imo it should not be allowed

However my understanding is;

If its for real life money then 100% no

If its for gold ingame then its allowed but at own risk. For many reasons mainly. 1 high risk of scM, and 2. If the person you are trading is also in rwt crowed you can be flagged for being apart of it.

Not worth the risk
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16-Dec-2023 13:18:16

Bertel62
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2_Tron said :
Jagex do not give permission to anybody to sell or buy things that relate to Jagex accounts .
But what do they mean by "sell or buy"? Is that only for real money or does it include in-game money? That is not stated anywhere. The whole thing is under the header REAL WORLD TRADING and it specifically says "buying or selling in the real world, for real money". In-game money are not real money, so how is it covered by this?

I am neither for or against doing this, I just don't think it's clear what is actually permitted.

16-Dec-2023 14:16:57 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2023 14:21:57 by Bertel62

2_Tron

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Jagex/JMods are pretty clear about their writings and nothing is left to the imagination.

'
buy = to get something by paying money for it
'

'
sell = to give something to someone else in return for money
'

It is that simple.

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However, you people should not dismantle said 'paragraph'

'
Everything in RuneScape and Old School RuneScape, including the account(s) you use to play the game, are owned by Jagex. Players are given permission to use these accounts by Jagex. However, Jagex do not give permission to anybody to sell or buy things that relate to Jagex accounts .


'
paragraph = a short part of a text, consisting of at least one sentence and beginning on a new line. It usually deals with a single event, description, idea, etc.
'

The importance lies still in 'relate to Jagex accounts'. Which 'character-names' do.

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A players point of view is the least ... 'irrelevant'.

You have to take into consideration what a 'judge in court' thinks it has meant to be, said paragraph in the Rules of RuneScape.

17-Dec-2023 10:39:52

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