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Dilbert2001 said :
Frank Zapppa said :
False advertising, they deleted classic forever.

As I mentioned it depends on Jagex's actual meaning of their slogan. Diamonds are not "forever" in reality but "A Diamond Is Forever" was considered the slogan of the last century by the advertising industry and not false advertising. Very interesting. :)

The difference is De Beers didn't hire influencers to say their diamonds are huge, quintuple the longevity compared to the diamonds other companies sell. "A Diamond" refers to the commitment of relationship between a couple who buy them. So it is not false advertising.

In Jagex's case, RSC is undeniably not forever, but we can still see all the RSC stories among other IP in RS3 for sure. So essentially, RSC is still "forever" existing in RS3 because the latter is the past, the present and the future, and perhaps the "forever future". Essentially it is perfectly fine, and smart to for Jagex to tell the world their "forever games" are their IP, not just specific games. Their franchises can be forever even without an online game. Yeah and here it is again ... a thread to complain about the end of RuneScape Classic. Pleas do stop whining/spamming the forums because RuneScape Classic ended long ago.

17-Dec-2023 10:50:16

Dilbert2001
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2_Tron said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Frank Zapppa said :
False advertising, they deleted classic forever.

As I mentioned it depends on Jagex's actual meaning of their slogan. Diamonds are not "forever" in reality but "A Diamond Is Forever" was considered the slogan of the last century by the advertising industry and not false advertising. Very interesting. :)

The difference is De Beers didn't hire influencers to say their diamonds are huge, quintuple the longevity compared to the diamonds other companies sell. "A Diamond" refers to the commitment of relationship between a couple who buy them. So it is not false advertising.

In Jagex's case, RSC is undeniably not forever, but we can still see all the RSC stories among other IP in RS3 for sure. So essentially, RSC is still "forever" existing in RS3 because the latter is the past, the present and the future, and perhaps the "forever future". Essentially it is perfectly fine, and smart to for Jagex to tell the world their "forever games" are their IP, not just specific games. Their franchises can be forever even without an online game. Yeah and here it is again ... a thread to complain about the end of RuneScape Classic. Pleas do stop whining/spamming the forums because RuneScape Classic ended long ago.

Please read carefully who brought up "the end of Runescape Classic" and whine/spam about it. Definitely not me. Just that I replied to the user who complained/whined about the end of RSC doesn't me I agreed with them. In fact, I don't.

RS3 is the forever game. No whining and complaining about "the end of Runescape Classic" whatsoever.

17-Dec-2023 16:16:50

Dilbert2001
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Raw Lobbs said :
Perhaps the term does not refer to the physical term, but they wanted to say that no matter how long or short the games lasted physically, all the games they developed were quality games that remained in the players' memories.

While having some games not physically existing but remain in our memories will be nice, I believe in the context of Jagex's official Forever Games webpage, they want their Forever Games for
their bigger and active communities
. Inevitably, Games in the past but not persistent and physically exist now and in the future won't be in the memories of the new and bigger and active communities present and in the future, so for the new comers, Jagex have to rely on their games now and in the future to be persistent and physically exist for them to keep going and going and going forever.

17-Dec-2023 16:29:55

Dilbert2001
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Bruce Waayne said :
Jagex does not make forever games.

FUNORB


Jagex make forever games doesn't translate to all games Jagex make are forever games unfortunately.

Undoubtedly, games with subpar profits, not chosen by the consumers, and legacy technology stacks are doomed to be forgotten, instead of forever games.

Funorb still exists in the memories of some legacy Jagex players though. It wasn't the only forgotten game Jagex made that only exists in the memories of players of the last generation. It is also not unlikely there will be more forgotten games Jagex made following the demise of Funorb going forward, but it is also likely Jagex will make new forever games naturally selected by the consumers and business worlds.

18-Dec-2023 16:27:02

Dilbert2001
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[#ILOLBVT6F] said :
This phrase reflects the company's success with RuneScape. It reflects the continued success of the RuneScape franchise for 2 decades. They also claim to have "such a huge expertise in live service games that we redefined what success looks like", therefore their new IPs will be "forever games" like RuneScape is. So in my opinion this phrase is very appropriate and creative for them to use in their brands.

RS3 is known for its renowned success in the MMORPG genre. However, there are a lot of uncharted territories they have yet to discover. While it is good to have a renowned forever MMORPG with classical player driven economy in RS3, they don't have any success in other genres of games.

What about games with no economy? What about 4-person coop games? What about esports? What about RPG with non-Runesape stories? What about games with futuristic settings? What about the Microsoft style Metaverse set in present time consumer and business worlds? Jagex can't put all these different elements in one game and realistically hope it will miraculously last forever. That's why they need to diversify and conquer more markets, especially not the MMO with a medieval fantasy theme. The only way the new Jagex can survive and hopefully grow forever is through scrapping outdated and low return gimmack investments and reinvest them in new forever titles that are preferably in new genres not named MMORPG.

Actually RS3 can set to gain from more forever games under Jagex's umbrella. As long as the new forever games aren't the de facto MMORPG with a lively natural player driven economy that RS3 is, RS3 has nothing to lose, and the new forever games may actually bring more new players to RS3 if they also happen to enjoy MMORPG. At least monetization in other games not named RS3 can mean less monetization in RS3. :)

29-Dec-2023 20:55:40 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2023 21:07:22 by Dilbert2001

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While some players blame Jagex can't make all their games forever games, evidently we should all understand in reality no developers can make all their games forever games, not even the most acclaimed Capcom in the video game industry in making heaps of long running franchises such as Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Street Fighter, Megaman etc.

The lesser remember fact is even the Grandmaster maker of the "forever games" has failed, cancelled and forgotten games too. One noticeable example is their investments in back porting multimillion selling modern games like Resident Evil to old school Game Boy Color.

It was a total bellyflop from then get go in beta, as it was found to be utterly disasters in profitability, market outlook and more importantly old school technologies weren't compatible and expandable for their modern franchise games.

So don't blame Jagex for canning their similar old school scum like RSC and Funorb inevitably. The chance for Games still heavily reliance on technologies before then 2010's to be "forever games" is slim and none.

30-Dec-2023 19:41:28 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2023 19:45:30 by Dilbert2001

Jeremy Cheng
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its a phrase that helps it look more palatable to new owners. doesn't really affect the consumers until the product is actually delivered. We were told a similar line for a recent failed extraction video game (yes that one that's shut down in 4 weeks).

01-Jan-2024 12:52:29

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On a casual level, friends and I often say that "RuneScape has been around forever".

Largely as we've always been aware of it since we started playing games of any kind.

I consider it to apply to the RuneScape brand, more than individual titles/variants (RSC, RS2, RS3, OSRS etc). Similar to how we may think of certain clothes/food/household brands as having been around forever. Sixth Realm | Community Clan Founded in 2009

01-Jan-2024 21:40:31 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2024 21:42:26 by Vivek

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