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Ebroulf
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I have just been working through the Elder God Wars Quest Series (everything after Sliske's Endgame, including Desperate Times, Measures, etc.).

I notice several quests in between big ones, such as Desperate Creatures, Sins of the Father, etc. that are worth 0 quest points and have some small contribution to forwarding the story.

Why are these not worth quest points? And if they aren't, shouldn't they be categorized as miniquests?

I haven't been able to find this topic anywhere, please point me in the right direction if this question has been answered before or should be moved to a different forum.

21-Jul-2023 03:53:59

Dilbert2001
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This is because RS3 values quality more than just quantity. IIRC, many of the Lore Council Jmods opined in different occassions that they could have made a lot of miniquests, Mysteries and other lore based content quests but they want what they properly call Quests to be more immersive, meaningful and rewarding to the grand progression of the players.

Most of the quests in the first 10 years of Runescape were just "fetch quests" as the game didn't have a clear direction. Now most story telling quests and other content in RS3 are episodic, so instead of having like 10 Doric and Boric "fetch this or that" quests in RS3 and call them "huge quests" but in reality they dilute the immersive episodic nature of the game, they aren't even call quests in 2023.

21-Jul-2023 16:43:19 - Last edited on 21-Jul-2023 16:48:05 by Dilbert2001

Ebroulf
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Don't get me wrong, I appreciate most of these little quests, and they are important to furthering the story. But I guess I don't understand the idea of making them a "real quest" and not offering a quest point. Just call it a miniquest and make it a pre-requisite for the next actual quest in the series?

23-Jul-2023 03:17:11

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Ebroulf said :
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate most of these little quests, and they are important to furthering the story. But I guess I don't understand the idea of making them a "real quest" and not offering a quest point. Just call it a miniquest and make it a pre-requisite for the next actual quest in the series?

That's what the situation used to be.

I'm not sure, but they might have turned them into quests for the quest list to work better, or make it easier to group them, or make the prerequisites easier to code, or make it clearer for us players, or something like that.
There must be some advantage (maybe only on Jagex' side) to them being quests now. Kings Eastwood in
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23-Jul-2023 12:47:54

Dilbert2001
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Ebroulf said :
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate most of these little quests, and they are important to furthering the story. But I guess I don't understand the idea of making them a "real quest" and not offering a quest point. Just call it a miniquest and make it a pre-requisite for the next actual quest in the series?

Perhaps you should look at all those miniquests, mysteries, events with narratives like Yak Tracks, World Events etc as "real story content" instead of "real quests".

In the 2000's when there were very few online games, let alone story telling online games, players were happy to just get a "fetch" quest like Doric Quest, but in the 2020's such "fetch quest" are a dime over 9,000 dozens. Cookie Cutters games with nothing but random missions and no grand storylines all call such "fetch this or kill that" content quests, but games with higher standard and higher quality stories usually like to distinguish themselves from the cookie cutter games.

It is more about the perceptions of the modern consumers. In 2023, good games don't want to tell their smart consumers Doric quests and such are all "huge quests" and give them the wrong impression about what the actual quality of the game.

23-Jul-2023 16:19:57

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