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@sperry - In respect to that my clan does not want to practise we challenge you.
Also to say that we are not TB we are SZ so I don't see why claiming "immunity" for our challenge should be valid as we aren't asking for a rematch...
We aren't claiming immunity
we have plans to accept your challenge. But that's off-topic from the point at hand here, I was just giving example on why immunity has been used and how it is intended.
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@sperry - In respect to that my clan does not want to practise we challenge you.
Also to say that we are not TB we are SZ so I don't see why claiming "immunity" for our challenge should be valid as we aren't asking for a rematch...
We aren't claiming immunity
we have plans to accept your challenge. But that's off-topic from the point at hand here, I was just giving example on why immunity has been used and how it is intended.
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19-Apr-2016 01:44:21
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In other words its not hard just to avoid another team and postpone a war for months on end is it now ....
We weren't avoiding. We scheduled a practice (SAPK vs SZ) a day before the wars on Saturday and after TB, we were immediately challenged by SZ (Obviously beat everyone else to challenging us). Sperry challenged Requiem hours before SZ dec'd SAPK. We were waiting for Requiem to either accept or decline the challenge vs LC before us putting the date as a counter proposal vs SZ. If we accepted SZ before Req (which I did anyways because yeah), Req could throw out the except same time as the SZ vs SAPK war, meaning LC or SAPK would miss their fight = forfeit, lmao.
"(Obviously beat everyone else to challenging us)" I didn't know you were that special?
I would happily talk to req if we had challanged on the same day for different times against SAPK.
But anyway, as you have accepted I won't make more of a fuss about it apart from the lack of communication between all teams involved.
We were challenged by those teams in the past, but you; should have said "Obviously fought those teams beforehand"
My bad, anyways, yeah goodluck.
You're the one who scheduled a practice with us and then immediately challenged us for rank 1 after our match, it doesn't matter since we had plans to accept it anyways, didn't request immunity but goodluck.
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In other words its not hard just to avoid another team and postpone a war for months on end is it now ....
We weren't avoiding. We scheduled a practice (SAPK vs SZ) a day before the wars on Saturday and after TB, we were immediately challenged by SZ (Obviously beat everyone else to challenging us). Sperry challenged Requiem hours before SZ dec'd SAPK. We were waiting for Requiem to either accept or decline the challenge vs LC before us putting the date as a counter proposal vs SZ. If we accepted SZ before Req (which I did anyways because yeah), Req could throw out the except same time as the SZ vs SAPK war, meaning LC or SAPK would miss their fight = forfeit, lmao.
"(Obviously beat everyone else to challenging us)" I didn't know you were that special?
I would happily talk to req if we had challanged on the same day for different times against SAPK.
But anyway, as you have accepted I won't make more of a fuss about it apart from the lack of communication between all teams involved.
We were challenged by those teams in the past, but you; should have said "Obviously fought those teams beforehand"
My bad, anyways, yeah goodluck.
You're the one who scheduled a practice with us and then immediately challenged us for rank 1 after our match, it doesn't matter since we had plans to accept it anyways, didn't request immunity but goodluck.
19-Apr-2016 01:52:52
Time required for a war to occur
When talking to Prod yesterday, he suggested a middle-ground idea which I believe could work.
- The standard amount of time for a war to occur could be reduced to two weeks
- If a clan has 3 or more RSW wars on at once, they get one extra week to schedule them in
Immunity
To clarify, immunity is not a way to skimp out of a war. It just postpones for a week the need to accept and negotiate, in order to give clans a small break if they want it. Personally I think one week is fine to that purpose, especially if there is a reduction in the time required for a war to occur.
On a side note, I've just added 'removal of the right to immunity' to the list of possible punishments.
Clans who have declined a war should not be able to instantly declare again
We will discuss adding anti-immunity (removal of the right to declare) in certain circumstances, including declining wars.
Clans should not redeclare for a rank they just lost
There is already a rule to prevent this. However, the way Zappy worded it is clearer so I'll probably be replacing the current wording with his version
Amount of ranks that can be challenged ahead
Considering reducing this as it feels a bit off to have clans join and immediately challenge for #1, for example. It would also give more reason to challenge for higher ranks, in order to get closer to a rank that can challenge on #1. However, I don't want to reduce it too much as that compromises the flexibility of the ladder.
Dealing with excessive multiclanning in the wbs ladder
Massive can of worms. Won't be rushing into any decisions on this, we'll be considering the possible options and brainstorming for new ones in order to try and find one that won't hurt the simplicity of the ladder too much.
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When talking to Prod yesterday, he suggested a middle-ground idea which I believe could work.
- The standard amount of time for a war to occur could be reduced to two weeks
- If a clan has 3 or more RSW wars on at once, they get one extra week to schedule them in
Immunity
To clarify, immunity is not a way to skimp out of a war. It just postpones for a week the need to accept and negotiate, in order to give clans a small break if they want it. Personally I think one week is fine to that purpose, especially if there is a reduction in the time required for a war to occur.
On a side note, I've just added 'removal of the right to immunity' to the list of possible punishments.
Clans who have declined a war should not be able to instantly declare again
We will discuss adding anti-immunity (removal of the right to declare) in certain circumstances, including declining wars.
Clans should not redeclare for a rank they just lost
There is already a rule to prevent this. However, the way Zappy worded it is clearer so I'll probably be replacing the current wording with his version
Amount of ranks that can be challenged ahead
Considering reducing this as it feels a bit off to have clans join and immediately challenge for #1, for example. It would also give more reason to challenge for higher ranks, in order to get closer to a rank that can challenge on #1. However, I don't want to reduce it too much as that compromises the flexibility of the ladder.
Dealing with excessive multiclanning in the wbs ladder
Massive can of worms. Won't be rushing into any decisions on this, we'll be considering the possible options and brainstorming for new ones in order to try and find one that won't hurt the simplicity of the ladder too much.
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Note these are my opinions. I may have missed certain arguments so there is no absolute guarantee that things will be changed exactly as described above. -
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19-Apr-2016 10:31:23 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 11:09:10 by Calm Enigma
You want a active warring ladder, you want to war as a fc or a clan but your able to accept 12 wars a year per ladder with maximum stalls per war.
Taking into account calms post above you get 1 week immunity if you chose to take it which almost everyone will, 3 days to accept but 7 days to negotiate and up to 2 weeks to war in. So other words 4 weeks you'll get a war. With tensions between teams and cc's they don't friendly war lol, they don't even conversate unless its for a ranked war, yet you can't do anything about that because you can challenge 12 ranks up and you can wait 30 days before you even need to war lol.
You don't need 7 days to negotiate, 5 days is enough with those first 3 days being you accepting? Its bull that people think when you accept a war you don't mention at all once what possible times people can make through what ever comms service people use. The fact people have immunity they should invoke that allowing only 1 week after to war, Therefore You have alone 3 weeks between wars and then again immunity isn't really much of a break considering the breaks between wars are evident by the weekdays off as no ranked wars in the past 3 - 4 months have taken part mid week.
Next you say multi Clannin*****; When a team has to completely replace another team and to the fact where its 9+1 and 10 its just pathetic because they won't ever challenge each other because they can't pull more then a solid 15 between them lol. and as for you asking for evidence yesterday calm read up to norm's post > He admits that if req were to challenge lc at the same time of the SZ war it would cause either lc or sapk to forefit lol. Sounds like you may swell allow team banter to make that second team like we wanted to do over 3 months ago so we could constantly have warring content when we sat at rank 1 for however long without any wars on the ladder at all lol. But no wait you didn't allow that
Taking into account calms post above you get 1 week immunity if you chose to take it which almost everyone will, 3 days to accept but 7 days to negotiate and up to 2 weeks to war in. So other words 4 weeks you'll get a war. With tensions between teams and cc's they don't friendly war lol, they don't even conversate unless its for a ranked war, yet you can't do anything about that because you can challenge 12 ranks up and you can wait 30 days before you even need to war lol.
You don't need 7 days to negotiate, 5 days is enough with those first 3 days being you accepting? Its bull that people think when you accept a war you don't mention at all once what possible times people can make through what ever comms service people use. The fact people have immunity they should invoke that allowing only 1 week after to war, Therefore You have alone 3 weeks between wars and then again immunity isn't really much of a break considering the breaks between wars are evident by the weekdays off as no ranked wars in the past 3 - 4 months have taken part mid week.
Next you say multi Clannin*****; When a team has to completely replace another team and to the fact where its 9+1 and 10 its just pathetic because they won't ever challenge each other because they can't pull more then a solid 15 between them lol. and as for you asking for evidence yesterday calm read up to norm's post > He admits that if req were to challenge lc at the same time of the SZ war it would cause either lc or sapk to forefit lol. Sounds like you may swell allow team banter to make that second team like we wanted to do over 3 months ago so we could constantly have warring content when we sat at rank 1 for however long without any wars on the ladder at all lol. But no wait you didn't allow that
19-Apr-2016 12:50:47 - Last edited on 19-Apr-2016 13:01:26 by Natti
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