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Beck League
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Beck League

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Hi Sports. You may know me from my popular Fletching guide here in the guides forum. With an over spammed profile, I am trying to keep my posting on new threads down to a bare minimum. I haven't found a thread worth posting on in this sub forum for over 3 months, but this thread ended that.

This thread is absolutely amazing. You solved most of my questions that I never thought I would get answered, like the Monkfish vs. Barbarian fishing example. I think anyone with this much effort into putting up an amazing guide like this should be on the Thread Of The Week. Like most people who read this guide, I have some questions.

I sort of disagree with your Stealing Creation example. You stated it takes 15 minutes to get a tool, but it takes 20 minutes for a game and 2 minutes in the waiting room. Doing Stealing Creation for a long time, such as 100 hours (using that time period like you did for another example); you would actually get more xp than if you Woodcutted (skill example) without using SC tools.

A tool costs 20 SC points to purchase, I can get about 23 points a game. One game is 22 minutes. 100 hours is 6000 minutes. 6000 divided by 22 is 272 SC games. 272 times 23 are 6256 points. Finally 6256 points divided by 20 is 312 SC Hatchets.

Say you get about 60k xp an hour, your highest xp rate possible at your level. 60k times 100 hours is 6M Woodcutting xp. So if you do it for 200 hours, you would get 12M Woodcutting xp, which is a 99 because at about level 71 (1M total Woodcutting xp in) you start to get 60k xp an hour.

Let’s recap. You can get 12M Woodcutting xp in 200 hours. With 100 hours in Stealing Creation, you can get 312 SC Hatchets, which give double the xp. To get up to 200 hours, you need to woodcut for 100 hours. Let’s say the Hatchets give about 40k xp including the bonus. 40k times 312 is 12,480,000 xp. Therefore, you are getting more xp using Stealing Creation at level 75 to 99 than 75 to 99 without it.

Now it's time to give your opinion.

30-May-2010 01:38:43 - Last edited on 30-May-2010 01:44:26 by Beck League

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Very well written, wonderful "Speeches" and nice calculations. But I would like to point out ( Even though that you pointed this out in the guide) that this is more for people who think they really will become 100% maxed. But yeah, overall good, and I won't be getting that 1m an hour as you've been stating, but I can make about 500k-700k an hour, so I should do my own math on that standard if I want to learn what's best for me.


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30-May-2010 02:00:47

weisse_Band

weisse_Band

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Very in-depth guide, I would suggest adding a portion on slayer cancelling.

I've heard a lot of people deciding to cancel tasks such as Mithril Dragons, Fire Giants, and Suqahs, because they are "slow tasks". However, if you think about it, cancelling a short task with low exp could be replaced by a long task with med-low exp.

Lets say player A cancels Mithril Dragons.

Player B cancels Blue Dragons.

In every cycle (almost every task is assigned in equal amounts) player A saves about 1/7 of an hour which is replaced with slaying at a rate of about 40k exp per hour. In that 8.6 minutes, 2.7k exp could be gained at Mithril Dragons. Alternatively, you could get 5.7k exp if you had skipped/cancelled. Player A saves about 3k experience.

In every cycle player B saves about 55.6 minutes which is replaced with slaying at a rate of about 40k exp per hour. In that 55.6 minutes, 24k exp can be gained at blue dragons. Alternatively, you could get 37000 slayer exp if you had skipped/cancelled. Player B saves 12k experience.

Obviously these rates are a bit off, but you get the picture. Each task has a positive gain or negative gain on your average exp. If a task saves exp, the exp it saves is based on how much would have been gotten if it wasn't that task subtracted from how much exp was gained.

Factors such as profit, expenses, etc, have to be calculated in, but the general idea is the same.

I'd also like to say, I love the explanations, it makes perfect sense, I'm going to direct all my friends here when I suggest certain methods of training, such as powerslaying.

30-May-2010 02:40:56

Sports441995

Sports441995

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Bad Board:

-I manage to complete SC games in around 17 minutes instead of 22, because of the skilling only worlds.

In addition, you must consider the following facts:

-An SC hatchet is 10% slower than a Dragon hatchet
-Your 60k xp/ hour estimate is rather low, don't you think? =p. I tend to always value time at what it would be at level 99, not level 70 ;) . At the very least, take the average amount of xp between the levels, which would raise it drastically because over 50% of your xp in a skill is earned past level 90. I'd say an 80k an hour estimate is more like it, if not more.

I believe that, with the exception of the hammer, it's better not to SC for items (though I did it for mining myself, simply because I hate mining ;) )


Litter:

-You'll eventually be able to make 1m an hour, if you stick with it =p. Unless an individual quits Runescape for some reason, I believe they;d eventually be maxed. Even if that's not so, I believe in always looking after the ultimate goal, lol =).

Death:

-There's several specific examples I could give for each scenario, the guide is only meant to be a general overview. I plan on writing skill-specific guides in the future, so I may include something like that then!

Anyways, thanks for the compliments guys! I can't believe how well-recieved this guide has been so far!

30-May-2010 03:45:18 - Last edited on 30-May-2010 03:52:14 by Sports441995

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