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Mal is a known name but idk much about him to support/be against adding him.

Levi should possibly be removed but we should wait to get more input on the topic. I don't really think we should add the others Woof mentioned; not influential beyond EOF imo.

The "unknown Queen" is known but definitely don't include that in Vepviper's entry.

Ibm was involved with KOY as well, and is on their Hall of fame.

One of Rob's clans was "Tree Gnome Empire"


Criax Ranour: Founding member and later an influential leader of The Grand Kingdom. Don't know specifics.

31-Mar-2016 18:06:55

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Krisi, I do agree my post about Rob was a bit harsh and I like yours a whole lot better. It gets the point across.

I agree with the description for Hurt.

Ibm was mainly an influence in KOY, which I believe is why he's mentioned in the first place, I just wanted to note that he was also a pretty big influence in EOF for a time as well.
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31-Mar-2016 21:10:35

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Krisi said :
Youyou said :

The "unknown Queen" is known but definitely don't include that in Vepviper's entry.



Considering that the large amount of time it wasnt actually him playing his character as a leader I think its important, end of the day was it really him that played during his rule. This actual detail is what lead to the falling down of that era of rule.


I just don't think it's fair to post allegations or negative information when she's not here to defend herself; especially since I had to edit certain entries to appear entirely positive because another unknown queen took issue with them ;)

31-Mar-2016 22:26:48

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It used to be up to me but I suppose right now the ultimate decision rests in Kat's hands. However, she has mentioned that she won't be contributing herself, but rather what the "general consensus is".

The official criteria is people who have had a strong influence on the POC world. Obviously it seems that this is a very vague definition but on the other hand it's not exactly something that can be quantified...

I agree with your point that this is beginning to become more of a directory than a HoF. That wasn't the intention and since you're one of more regular contributors to the project I'd definitely like to hear your opinion on how we should go about it, or ideas on what a set of guidelines would include.

I mentioned before having the thread jointly managed by a group of POC veterans, who would vote on whether to include/remove someone, taking other opinions into consideration. I decided not to do that because I didn't know if I would be able to find enough interested people and I didn't know how to actually pick these people without being biased. What do you think though? Would that work?

01-Apr-2016 00:47:16

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My issue is that it's simply not possible to change it from a Hall of Fame. It's impossible to add all the people involved with the POC community, as well as their descriptions; so in the end it will still come down to someone deciding who's "worthy" of being on it, essentially making it a hall of fame of sorts.

I'd prefer keeping it as a Hall of Fame. In that case, what do you think some of the guidelines would be? Who do you think would be an unbiased choice to represent w83 on said panel?


Again, I didn't attack anyone. All I said was "controversial" which I honestly don't think is offensive, since it simply means opinions on that person are split (which you can't deny is the case for most clan leaders). If you'd have messaged me in game saying you didn't want that I'd have apologised and removed it, which is what I did when the Fmod asked me to.

I admit I have this problem of abandoning things but I simply didn't have enough time to keep this (and especially the archive) constantly updated. I'm definitely going to work on those guidelines and how to improve the HOF myself, and possibly be part of that panel (which I think should include more than one person from every world) but I just want someone else to host the actual thread.

01-Apr-2016 01:29:54

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