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Jor Ulfrsson

Jor Ulfrsson

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Let's be nice now.



Since everyone did not like the wording structure of my last proposal; here is my new proposal.

1. All clans and individual claimers must apply as themselves, not on behalf of anyone else.

2. All clans and individuals must wait a one week probation period before being allowed to vote or participate in open discussion at Community meetings.

3. Unions may not vote on behalf of those clans or individuals within.

4. Clans may not vote on behalf of other individuals.

5. Individuals may not vote on behalf of other individuals.

6. One must express their opinion on the topic prior to voting.

7. Non-members will not be allowed to claim land or participate in meetings or poll voting. Lands will be revoked if inactive and they do obtain membership within a month.



* Discussion is free.

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Vote: 3-2

(Yea/For)
- Kingdom of Ashdale (2)
- White Knights (2)
- Lex Legacy (2)
- Michi Lex (1)
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(Nay/Against)
- Kingdom of Zaros (2)
- Empire of Priffddinas (2)
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- We find ourselves at the end of our amusements.

11-Sep-2014 20:24:18 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2014 22:33:44 by Jor Ulfrsson

Hecless Lex

Hecless Lex

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Burgoyne said :
Shut up, Hecless. The sovereignty of the clans in the HZE is not questioned. Both the EOP and the AO reserve the right to vote freely and override anytime I say "the HZE votes yes/no/abstain". It's one of the principles you accept when joining.

They should still be allowed to vote freely, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for them to begin with. You should ONLY be allowed to vote for the KOZ, your clan. You keep talking about how you want w31 to rise from the dead, but when you have one person have so much power over the voting system it makes people leave and the community dies. You are killing the w31 community. They are more than capable of posting their votes, and if they don't want to vote you shouldn't be able to vote for them.

11-Sep-2014 20:25:18

Chopper Head

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Since everyone did not like the wording structure of my last proposal; here is my new proposal.

1. All clans and individual claimers must apply as themselves, not on behalf of anyone else.

2. All clans and individuals must wait a one week probation period before being allowed to vote or participate in open discussion at Community meetings.

3. Unions may not vote on behalf of clans.

4. Clans may not vote on behalf of individuals.

5. Individuals may not vote on behalf of other individuals.

6. One must express their opinion on the topic prior to voting.

7. Non-members will not be allowed to claim land or participate in meetings or poll voting. Lands will be revoked if inactive and they do obtain membership within a month.



* Discussion is free.

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Vote: 3-2

(Yea/For)
- Lex Legacy (2)
- Michi Lex (1)
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-

(Nay/Against)
- Kingdom of Zaros (2)
- Kingdom of Prifddinas (2)
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-

11-Sep-2014 20:33:31

Burgoyne

Burgoyne

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This conversation is over. I'm not going to sit here and listen to some apparent world 31 has been. Unions haven't been in world 31 since the Republic of World 31, which is considered by many to be the golden age of this world. You weren't there so you wouldn't know what does and does not work in this world. I will sit here and cite countless examples of what will restore this world to greatness. Unions is one of them, or coalitions in particular. The only time this failed was when Bloodlines locked horns with EOZ, but that involved battle ladder clans which do not exist anymore. Hecless Lex said :
Burgoyne said :
Shut up, Hecless. The sovereignty of the clans in the HZE is not questioned. Both the EOP and the AO reserve the right to vote freely and override anytime I say "the HZE votes yes/no/abstain". It's one of the principles you accept when joining.

They should still be allowed to vote freely, you shouldn't be allowed to vote for them to begin with. You should ONLY be allowed to vote for the KOZ, your clan. You keep talking about how you want w31 to rise from the dead, but when you have one person have so much power over the voting system it makes people leave and the community dies. You are killing the w31 community. They are more than capable of posting their votes, and if they don't want to vote you shouldn't be able to vote for them.

11-Sep-2014 20:39:58

Jor Ulfrsson

Jor Ulfrsson

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Please post your opinions on the topic before voting. I need to know exactly what you do not agree with and feedback information so that I can reevaluate or change it if necessary. Otherwise, it appears that you are voting biased based on your relations.

Burgoyne, whether you like it or not, this is the state of things, this is how it is going to be. There will constantly be opposition no matter the circumstances, unless you are the one making all the decisions on behalf of everyone else. We find ourselves at the end of our amusements.

11-Sep-2014 20:41:08 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2014 20:43:46 by Jor Ulfrsson

Burgoyne

Burgoyne

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Support. 100%. KOASH and lex Legacy is guilty of this. At least my union has one clan member who's also an individual claimer. Chopper Head said :
Also, if you're gonna have individuals with a vote from the clans that already have a group vote for their clan, then the system is flawed as it is just a way to gain an extra vote FYI.

11-Sep-2014 20:41:35

Wind Titan
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Wind Titan

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Since everyone did not like the wording structure of my last proposal; here is my new proposal.

1. All clans and individual claimers must apply as themselves, not on behalf of anyone else.

2. All clans and individuals must wait a one week probation period before being allowed to vote or participate in open discussion at Community meetings.

3. Unions may not vote on behalf of clans.

4. Clans may not vote on behalf of individuals.

5. Individuals may not vote on behalf of other individuals.

6. One must express their opinion on the topic prior to voting.

7. Non-members will not be allowed to claim land or participate in meetings or poll voting. Lands will be revoked if inactive and they do obtain membership within a month.



* Discussion is free.

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Vote: 3-2

(Yea/For)
- Lex Legacy (2)
- Michi Lex (1)
- White Knights(2)
-

(Nay/Against)
- Kingdom of Zaros (2)
- Kingdom of Prifddinas (2)
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-

11-Sep-2014 20:48:20

Wind Titan
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Wind Titan

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Clan Capitals


"Clan Name - Main Representative - Capital


*World 31 Capital: Kelagrim

1. Infernal Phoenix - Angry Ugig - Ghorrock
2. Kingdom of Zaros - Burgoyne - Varrock
3. II White Knights II - Wind Titan - Falador
4. Kingdom of Ashdale - Vaaris Ignis - Ashdale
5. NO CLAN - Youyou 6300 - Sinclair Mansion
6. NO CLAN - Lord Bowie I - Varrock Palace
7. NO CLAN - Col Kate - Draynor Manor"


Bowie can you update this? That way I may point out those who do have World 31 as their home and therefor are not part of the community unless they do so. Some people may not like that idea, as they may find they do not have 8 rightful votes (hint hint). Then we can proceed with both votes.

Thank you!

11-Sep-2014 20:52:14

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