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Cairo Saepio

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Youyou said :
Right, I agree to a meeting before new claims and I personally think Falador should remain with the WK, though like Vaaris said, if someone wars you for it and you can't defend you can't claim it's yours.

So my opinion: Meeting decides who owns what lands + threadholder. Rest of the lands arent left unclaimed but are instead shared between the entire w31 community. This would prevent any unwanted clan from claiming the lands by any means other than war :)

There are no "regulations" but if a clan wants to claim more than one piece of land at once they need permission from the majority of w31 clans. What do you think?

Individuals shouldn't own large cities but instead an "estate". This can either be part of the lands of the clan they are in; or one of the unclaimed lands with permission of w31 majority :)

I agree with the estate ideas. However I think the current regulations are fine, we just need to add stuff to deal with inactivity. Say, have a timer that clans need to respond by, or else their land is forfeit with no war. Maybe set it at a week or so?
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07-Aug-2014 18:16:21

Doctrine
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Well on this note I believe individuals should only own one piece of land (this was meant to be stated with that rule but there was no more room) and that piece of land should be reasonable such as the Clocktower or the Sinclair Mansion, it should not be a large city. And also you could own a plot of land within your clan if your clan owns that area but that does not specifically need to be put on here as it should be divided up on your own clan page.

And another thing is that yes at the meeting it would be nice to decide who owns what lands and the clans that do currently own a good amount of land (KoV, IP, WK) should decide what they need and make the rest unclaimed. Having a ridiculous amount of land is not needed and it could make it less enjoyable if a new clan were to join and they only have all this random filler land to choose from.

The claims are currently very unbalanced and it would be nice to have it reestablished where there are reasonable sized clans and Individuals do not own more than one land and do not also own a massive city such as Varrock or Ardougne.

07-Aug-2014 19:28:00

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So basically at this meeting we need to wipe clean all the claims and then organize it and divide the land into reasonable chunks. (Of course not divided all the land as a large amount needs to be unclaimed as we only have a few clans here as of this moment)

Also I would like to suggest that once the next thread is up and running we have a monthly meeting established, such as a clan has weekly meetings. For example this could be every third Sunday or anything really. And I think that this would help us with organizing and maintaining activity.

07-Aug-2014 19:38:20 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2014 19:40:33 by Doctrine

AngryAraxxor

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There are
three active clans
currently on this world/thread: Infernal Phoenix, Kingdom of Zaros and Kingdom of Ashdale. Kingdom of Varrock left w31 somewhere around June, for the reason I stated earlier (them and IP were the only clans left on this world and they didn't see a point in staying any longer). The WK is here, but until it has been revived, I don't really count it yet.

As for
"redestributing the land"
, I don't really see much point in it. If I were to get rid of some of mine, that would then go unclaimed, making it even more difficult to reach a clan to war? In the case the land is divided equally (like Bucharest suggested), does that mean IP, KoZ and Kingdom of Ashdale each get 1/3 of the world? I see no point in that either, that would just put new clans off from joining.

About
activity
: We have tried setting regulations for that many, many times. In the end we decided to just "clean up" inactives from the thread whenever we held a meeting, but I do agree we need solid rules on it (specifically on how much time there is to respond to a war app, and when a clan is removed from the system).

About
"splitting up" large cities
: I personally disagree, other than having Ardougne-West and Ardougne-East as the game recognizes them as seperate. A city such as Varrock should not be owned by 10 people, like it is some kind of company you buy shares from. If you feel entitled to owning Varrock, you should fight for it, not make a half ass attempt by claiming the north east Varrock Church.

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07-Aug-2014 21:03:21

Cairo Saepio

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I'm not sure if you all have seen yet, but Burg and I are part of the Covenant of Freedom. I know you have seen Caiatinus. And is was wondering what you would think of something similar here? I know Wind has expressed interest in joining the Covenant once he reaches 10 members again.


Also, I would like your opinion on it as well, Araxxor.
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07-Aug-2014 21:03:52 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2014 21:06:12 by Cairo Saepio

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I think what we have going here at the Land Claims is fine for what it is, it's just we don't have too many active clans.

And on reorganizing the land, I think it is necessary. All of the active clans should have there land but they don't need a ridiculous amount of land such as IP has. That amount of land is not needed and it would be nice to see all the clans have a good amount of land relative to their clan size. And I don't see why you would necessarily want to war the current clans with claims but if you were going to and there are unclaimed land in between the two opposing clans just simply go across he unclaimed lands and attack them, that's realistic and reasonable.

07-Aug-2014 21:29:09

Youyou

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Right here we go.

+~ There will be no 'unclaimed' lands. Lands will be owned by the community of w31, and anyone wishing to obtain those lands without the permission of w31 will be forced to war every clan in it.

+~ Individuals may only own one piece of land that is reasonable in size. Decided by the holder of the thread.

+~ Only one piece of new land can be claimed per 24 hours. (unless otherwise agreed by the majority of clans)

+~ The threadholder (needs another title :P ) is responsible for enforcing the rules and regulating individual claims. They are chosen at the meeting when the current thread is about to reach 2000 posts. If there is a dispute on one of the decisions a vote between clans is held to resolve it.

+~ Clans have 7 days to respond to a vote on forums; vote ends if a majority decision is reached on one of the choices.

+~ Clans may war for a maximum of 2 pieces of land (not including capital) at once, and must risk an equal amount of land. This rule can be ignored if both sides agree.

+~ Clans have 7 days to respond to a war app or they forfeit their lands.

07-Aug-2014 22:46:02

Youyou

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+~ If no agreement on war rules is reached between both parties the default rules are used:
- Everything but summoning on
- Allies allowed
- 2 rounds with a tiebreaker round if necessary
- Declarer attacks first round and defender attacks second round, 3rd round free for all
- Turrets map

+~ Each clan can claim a capital city and this city cannot be attacked until they own no other lands.

+* Wars between individuals are subject to the same rules as wars between clans.

+~ A meeting will be held every ~3 weeks to discuss current events. 2 representatives from each clan as well as individual claimers are allowed to attend; however, individuals get no vote. Time and date of next meeting is decided at meeting. If there is a tie between clan votes the voting is redone with each clan receiving one vote per 10 members.

+~ New clans wishing to join the community must have a forum thread and 15+ members; and must agree to follow these rules.

+~ Lands may be traded/given freely.

+* Any clan that attempts to claim lands without following these rules will be declared war upon by the entire w31 community.



- Youyou.

does anyone have a rule they wish to add/a rule they don't agree with?

07-Aug-2014 22:54:43

Cairo Saepio

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Youyou said :
+~ If no agreement on war rules is reached between both parties the default rules are used:
- Everything but summoning on
- Allies allowed
- 2 rounds with a tiebreaker round if necessary
- Declarer attacks first round and defender attacks second round, 3rd round free for all
- Turrets map

+~ Each clan can claim a capital city and this city cannot be attacked until they own no other lands.

+* Wars between individuals are subject to the same rules as wars between clans.

+~ A meeting will be held every ~3 weeks to discuss current events. 2 representatives from each clan as well as individual claimers are allowed to attend; however, individuals get no vote. Time and date of next meeting is decided at meeting. If there is a tie between clan votes the voting is redone with each clan receiving one vote per 10 members.

+~ New clans wishing to join the community must have a forum thread and 15+ members; and must agree to follow these rules.

+~ Lands may be traded/given freely.

+* Any clan that attempts to claim lands without following these rules will be declared war upon by the entire w31 community.



- Youyou.

does anyone have a rule they wish to add/a rule they don't agree with?

I'd say everything off and allies off as well. Unless it is the entire world declaring on a clan.
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07-Aug-2014 23:56:16

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