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Andras
Why did you say that out loud?
I'm not sure if I follow
Cuddle
's 2nd post on the first page, but it would be powerful if progress on clan related stuff could be more transparent. I think that's the suggestion behind his post, based on the frustration I think I'm sharing?
For example, if either
Maz
or
MattHe
really resonated with a suggestion, then it would be super appreciated if they said so. But in order for them to be comfortable doing that, it would require on our end being respectful with our expectations, and understanding that priorities can change, sometimes for confidential or personal reasons. (This is starting to remind me of consent, and respecting that humans are 3-dimensional with complex opinions that differ among situations and over time).
In addition, it would be nice if we received feedback on how we're giving feedback. My concern is that when it seems like the jmods aren't hearing us, people will put in their emotional all because they don't have much to lose. However, that becomes a problem with actual repercussions when a valid point isn't taken seriously enough. since conceding to such a point feels more like submitting to someone than assimilating their perspective as your own.
I mention this because my classmates are engineers and sometimes I want to facedesk when I have a dumb question I need to ask, but I can't, either because I'm either too self-conscious or because my ego doesn't wanna give someone their satisfaction. Some people with stiff egos won't let up being "right" where others are wrong, instead of understanding that instead of being wrong, it's most likely that someone was confused or there was miscommunication, as a result of people thinking differently.
Updates are more likely to be forwarded and implemented when it's easy to yes to the person/source, so that jmods can say yes to the idea as well. (Aka life in general)
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06-Apr-2016 06:54:10 - Last edited on 06-Apr-2016 08:11:34 by Vera
Vera
said
:
Why did you say that out loud?
I'm not sure if I follow
For example, if either
In addition, it would be nice if we received feedback on how we're giving feedback. My concern is that when it seems like the jmods aren't hearing us, people will put in their emotional all because they don't have much to lose. However, that becomes a problem with actual repercussions when a valid point isn't taken seriously enough. since conceding to such a point feels more like submitting to someone than assimilating their perspective as your own.
These are some good points, though my question to Matthe would be; are we (as clan leaders) here in a position to give suggestions and feedback regarding clan/qol updates?
My concern is that your hands are full with other projects and such (related to clans or not, we don't know) and people here are voicing their opinions and feedback but will it ever go somewhere?
I think being transparent is very important and if your development time is full with other projects for the time being, we deserve to know what's on your plate.
Andras
Why did you say that out loud?
I'm not sure if I follow
Cuddle
's 2nd post on the first page, but it would be powerful if progress on clan related stuff could be more transparent. I think that's the suggestion behind his post, based on the frustration I think I'm sharing?
For example, if either
Maz
or
MattHe
really resonated with a suggestion, then it would be super appreciated if they said so. But in order for them to be comfortable doing that, it would require on our end being respectful with our expectations, and understanding that priorities can change, sometimes for confidential or personal reasons. (This is starting to remind me of consent, and respecting that humans are 3-dimensional with complex opinions that differ among situations and over time).
In addition, it would be nice if we received feedback on how we're giving feedback. My concern is that when it seems like the jmods aren't hearing us, people will put in their emotional all because they don't have much to lose. However, that becomes a problem with actual repercussions when a valid point isn't taken seriously enough. since conceding to such a point feels more like submitting to someone than assimilating their perspective as your own.
These are some good points, though my question to Matthe would be; are we (as clan leaders) here in a position to give suggestions and feedback regarding clan/qol updates?
My concern is that your hands are full with other projects and such (related to clans or not, we don't know) and people here are voicing their opinions and feedback but will it ever go somewhere?
I think being transparent is very important and if your development time is full with other projects for the time being, we deserve to know what's on your plate.
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