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Scret
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Ceecs said :
The reason it was in-game on Runescape was:

1) The delay on new Clan Members being able to function as a full member of the Clan ie Citadel skilling.
2) The ability of individuals to leave one Clan and take part in activities, including the Clan Cup, as a member of another Clan straight away. There was a significant issue with this during the Clan Cup and led to disqualifications.
3) That "Clan Hoppers" caused significant concern to a number of Clans and were something we wanted to address.

- Since no citadel and avatar buff or any Clan Cups so far it was a bit not needed....


Again nothing has changed in terms of restrictions to citadels or avatar buffs, both systems require a person to wit one week before they are involved in citadel related things.

Most people would rather be in a clan and waiting rather than be out of a clan and waiting.
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10-Dec-2015 08:46:49

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Scret said :
Ceecs said :
The reason it was in-game on Runescape was:

1) The delay on new Clan Members being able to function as a full member of the Clan ie Citadel skilling.
2) The ability of individuals to leave one Clan and take part in activities, including the Clan Cup, as a member of another Clan straight away. There was a significant issue with this during the Clan Cup and led to disqualifications.
3) That "Clan Hoppers" caused significant concern to a number of Clans and were something we wanted to address.

- Since no citadel and avatar buff or any Clan Cups so far it was a bit not needed....


Again nothing has changed in terms of restrictions to citadels or avatar buffs, both systems require a person to wit one week before they are involved in citadel related things.

Most people would rather be in a clan and waiting rather than be out of a clan and waiting.


Apart from now you have to wait 9 days for an avatar.
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10-Dec-2015 09:40:06

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Scret said :
Ceecs said :
The reason it was in-game on Runescape was:

1) The delay on new Clan Members being able to function as a full member of the Clan ie Citadel skilling.
2) The ability of individuals to leave one Clan and take part in activities, including the Clan Cup, as a member of another Clan straight away. There was a significant issue with this during the Clan Cup and led to disqualifications.
3) That "Clan Hoppers" caused significant concern to a number of Clans and were something we wanted to address.

- Since no citadel and avatar buff or any Clan Cups so far it was a bit not needed....


Again nothing has changed in terms of restrictions to citadels or avatar buffs, both systems require a person to wit one week before they are involved in citadel related things.

Most people would rather be in a clan and waiting rather than be out of a clan and waiting.


Except in the case of new players for whom the wait to get involved in the Citadel has been removed.
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10-Dec-2015 10:46:26

Scret
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Mod Matthe said :
Scret said :
Ceecs said :
The reason it was in-game on Runescape was:

1) The delay on new Clan Members being able to function as a full member of the Clan ie Citadel skilling.
2) The ability of individuals to leave one Clan and take part in activities, including the Clan Cup, as a member of another Clan straight away. There was a significant issue with this during the Clan Cup and led to disqualifications.
3) That "Clan Hoppers" caused significant concern to a number of Clans and were something we wanted to address.

- Since no citadel and avatar buff or any Clan Cups so far it was a bit not needed....


Again nothing has changed in terms of restrictions to citadels or avatar buffs, both systems require a person to wit one week before they are involved in citadel related things.

Most people would rather be in a clan and waiting rather than be out of a clan and waiting.


Except in the case of new players for whom the wait to get involved in the Citadel has been removed.


In the previous system new players (players without a previous clan) could instantly cap if i recall? The weeks penalty was only enforced if you were coming from a different clan.
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10-Dec-2015 13:49:00 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2015 13:58:35 by Scret

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Scret said :
Mod Matthe said :


Except in the case of new players for whom the wait to get involved in the Citadel has been removed.


In the previous system new players (players without a previous clan) could instantly cap if i recall? The weeks penalty was only enforced if you were coming from a different clan.[/quote]

Nope - new players could not at all. That was the probation period previously referred to and one of the big issues we wanted to overcome with the change.
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10-Dec-2015 14:57:23

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10-Dec-2015 15:03:54 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2015 15:04:50 by Scret

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Mod Matthe said :
Scret said :
Mod Matthe said :


Except in the case of new players for whom the wait to get involved in the Citadel has been removed.


In the previous system new players (players without a previous clan) could instantly cap if i recall? The weeks penalty was only enforced if you were coming from a different clan.


"Nope - new players could not at all. That was the probation period previously referred to and one of the big issues we wanted to overcome with the change.[/quote]"



That change couldve been made without having to force people to wait a week to join a clan.

Infact thats not even a feature connected to cool down, thats something that can apply with or without because as it currently stands new players are not even subject to cool-down at all.
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10-Dec-2015 15:05:57 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2015 15:08:59 by Scret

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Scret said :
Mod Matthe said :
Scret said :
Mod Matthe said :


Except in the case of new players for whom the wait to get involved in the Citadel has been removed.


In the previous system new players (players without a previous clan) could instantly cap if i recall? The weeks penalty was only enforced if you were coming from a different clan.


"Nope - new players could not at all. That was the probation period previously referred to and one of the big issues we wanted to overcome with the change.
"



That change couldve been made without having to force people to wait a week to join a clan.

Infact thats not even a feature connected to cool down, thats something that can apply with or without because as it currently stands new players are not even subject to cool-down at all.[/quote]

No - that change could not have been made in the way you have described. Hence the change we made to the system which was the best option using the data structures we had available and the changes we could make to them.
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10-Dec-2015 15:25:33

Scret
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"No - that change could not have been made in the way you have described. Hence the change we made to the system which was the best option using the data structures we had available and the changes we could make to them."

And why couldnt it?

Seems to me like its very easy for the system to differentiate between who has and who hasnt previously been in a clan.

Could easily have been as simple as to change it so that new players could cap instantly without having the cool-down system.
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10-Dec-2015 15:27:35 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2015 15:29:59 by Scret

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Scret said :
"No - that change could not have been made in the way you have described. Hence the change we made to the system which was the best option using the data structures we had available and the changes we could make to them."

And why couldnt it?

Seems to me like its very easy for the system to differentiate between who has and who hasnt previously been in a clan.

Could easily have been as simple as to change it so that new players could cap instantly without having the cool-down system.


It really is not as simple as it might appear - if it had been that is probably the solution we would have utilised but it was not the case, as Mod Maz did explain at length when we made the changes.
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10-Dec-2015 15:46:26

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