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2013

J4ron

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November 30 2017
Idea/Query

[Leader]

: Maintaining the citadels at higher tiers isn't too bad if you retain a decent portion of the people you needed to upgrade in the first place. Needing 25 people to upgrade to tier 6, it's highly unlikely you'd drop down to only 5 too soon after. I appreciate that we can maintain a higher tier with fewer people, but my frustration at the moment is getting the extra people to be able to qualify for an upgrade to Tier 5. We've got a smaller clan, a quiet family atmosphere. They come and go in the game as Life allows, on average about 10-12 regular weekly workers. With many busy with school or other real life situations, we were lucky to get the 15 we needed to upgrade to T4 earlier this year.

Moltare

: The original intent was that clans with small numbers of people should find it difficult-to-impossible to have citadels as big and shiny as clans with large numbers of people
: That's been eased over time
: But the principle is still in place, for better or worse
: (for a social feature to not encourage you to make your social group bigger would be self-defeating, though. the idea is that you get more people to come and play the game)

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December 3 2017
Idea/query

[Leader]

:with 50% instead of 10%, will we get 50% less xp? also won't it make citadel boosters pointless to exist?

Mod Shauny

:Citadel Boosters work in Tandem with the Skill Plot
So if you had one it'd be 150%
Sure it'd be less XP
But you'd cap way quicker
You decide if you want to take that path [Leader]

[Leader]

: and boosters are going to be a random drop while skilling in the cit iirc?

Mod Shauny

: That was an idea I had
: Not confirmed whatsoever
: But I want to get them in-game somehow Owner of

All But Forgotten

NZ/Aus/USA based social clan.

15-Apr-2018 13:43:50 - Last edited on 04-May-2018 08:20:58 by J4ron

Oct

2013

J4ron

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December 3 2017
Idea/query: (Ort removal)

[Leader]

: could a one-off exchange of orts for boosters be done, on the update orts are removed?
: even if it's at a ratio of 10,000:1

Mod Shauny

: Becomes a pain to write a login check for it, and adds more work for it
: I want to just get this update out
: I'm hesitant to not take any approach with Citadel Boosters until we see what we're doing with that

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December 4 2017
Idea/query: (Upkeep removal)

[Leader]

: Mod Shauny, Could removal of weekly upkeep for T7 Citadels be considered as a reward for getting there? Some (probably a lot) of Clans end up giving up on Citadels due to difficulty with fullfilling the weekly upkeep after a long time of doing it.

Mod Shauny

: Funny you should say that
How about as a short term...
"Reduced value to 20% of old value"

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December 6 2017
Idea/query: (Clans owning worlds)

Moltare

: My proposed approach to Mark's "clans own the world" thing back in the day was to theme the control criteria around the skills trained in an area
: So you'd plant your clan vex in Catherby by being the most efficient fishers on that world in Catherby
: Combat would only be how you owned bits of Wilderness
: You'd own the Cooking Guild by cooking
: that sort of thing
: Tricky one, it's a massive shift in clan purpose
: and that's always worrying Owner of

All But Forgotten

NZ/Aus/USA based social clan.

15-Apr-2018 13:44:51 - Last edited on 04-May-2018 08:28:39 by J4ron

Oct

2013

J4ron

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December 12 2017
Idea/query: (Summoning plot limit increase)

[Leader]

: Would you be opposed to increasing the limit on the summoning plot Mod Shauny?

Mod Shauny

: One step at a time, I want to see where we're at when Ava rework hits Owner of

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2013

J4ron

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Warning: The next Conversation is VERY long

December 23 2017
Category: idea/query

ModShauny

:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379973131600658432/393746607738454016/unknown.png
: Question, would you rather have these boxes all avaliable to tick whenever?
: Right now it says
:https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379973131600658432/393746695302676502/unknown.png
: And TBH I'm thinking why not make all the options avaliable but just allow Clan Owners to tick what they like?

[Leader1]

: Yes you could just let the owner tick what they want each role to do, with all options being available for ranks

Mod Shauny

: Yeah TBH
: I'm tempted to just remove all these checks and let the Owner decide what's avaliable
: I'm not going to force them on, so Owner's discretion and all that
: But want to see what others think

[Leader1]

: That would be a nice idea in my opinion, the only downside I could see people possibly having is that other key ranks will no longer be able to help out with permissions
: but for my clan at least that would be nice

Mod Shauny

: Key Ranks can still do the ranks below them

[Leader1]

: ohhh I see what you mean then, looks good

Mod Shauny

: Are you in-game right now?

[Leader1]

: yeah I am now

Mod Shauny

: If so check the permissions tab
: And go to General
: And I believe to lock the keep it's darkened out right?

[Leader1]

: darkened out for ranks below admin yeah

Mod Shauny

: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379973131600658432/393753087090884628/unknown.png

[Leader2]

: won't that break clan settings?

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Mod Shauny

: How so?

[Leader2]

: doesn't it need to be admin+

Mod Shauny

: Well that permission used to need admin+
: Not anymore

[Leader3]

: Will it be possible to have an interface to see who has capped and who has visited like a scroll you can read from the quartermaster or something

[Leader2]

: ye but why

Mod Shauny

: Why not?

[Leader2]

: was there a reason or design aspect
: like kicking cant be below admin

Mod Shauny

: Just wanted to see if it works, also give everyone the choice to set what permissions they want?

[Leader2]

: because of the code

Mod Shauny

: Pretty sure that can change if we really want that

[Leader2]

: thought might be the same reason

[Leader3]

: most permissions i will keep admin+
: so list of who visited and capped upto the last reset from quartermaster?

[Leader2]

: Mod Shauny, is it possible to gather a few mods like what was done for gamejam to work on clan permission rewrite

Mod Shauny

: Also wild thought, having the ability to individually set if the player can kick people in clansettings?

[Leader1]

: yes please!
: kick guests or members? or both?

[Leader4]

: I like that

Mod Shauny

: I mean from Clan

[Leader1]

: perfect

[Leader5]

: I’d be happy with just being able to take it from admins or give it to generals
: But as long as it’s as well as not instead of I support it sure

Mod Shauny

: I'm thinking like when you view a clan member in clan settings
: It has the usual ban from keep, etc

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15-Apr-2018 13:47:03

Oct

2013

J4ron

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[Leader6]

: [ ] Disable clan kick?

Mod Shauny

: Have that checkbox which says Can kick from clan
: I'll have to look when I'm back on Tuesday though
: Wednesday even
[Leader6: would it be better to allow all ranks to kick
: and disable individual people?

Mod Shauny

: That's a lot of individual toggling

[Leader7]

: what about both?

[Leader4]

: I'd prefer rank to individual people
: if we have to choose

[Leader7]

: yeah if we have to choose one rank is better

Mod Shauny

: That surprises me in a way
: Meaning you have to force rank someone to admin to allow them to kick means they get other perms you may not want them to have
: If you see what I mean?

[Leader4]

: It's cause...well I wouldn't have a key rank I don't trust whole heartedly

[Leader6]

: i guess its ok

[Leader4]

: and admins for other things

[Leader6]

: it will just be a lot of set up initially

[Leader4]

: cause its easier to explain... well all admins dont have x rather than....

[Leader6]

: but might work out better once initial set up by leader has been done

[Leader4]

: Well why does Bob have this but I dont? we are both admin?: Calls for a lot of awkward conversation tbh

[Leader7]

: very true

[Leader4]

: People are VERY critical about what others have that they dont

[Leader1]

: With the current avatar situation, I've often wanted to rank people up so that they can have access to it, but without giving them kick/other admin powers. I think the check box would be nice for this 1

[Leader4]

: If both could be an option, that too would be cool

Mod Shauny

: Maybe something like, can kick if Admin or if the player has a toggle on to do so?

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15-Apr-2018 13:47:33

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J4ron

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[Leader8]

: If you want all of a certain rank to be able to kick, you can just individually give all the members with that rank the ability to kick

Mod Shauny

: The way I see it though is if you want a group of admins to have kicks you can toggle them?
: Trying to give more freedom in choice
: Instead of being limited to ranks

[Leader4]

: True, just sounds like a lot of work if there is no...check all automatically option
: check all admins etc

[Leader6]

a lot of the issue has always been admin has had too much power for what the rank is

[Leader4]

: For newer clans at least who build in number quickly
: Don't get me wrong >.< I LOVE options, but then we have to wonder at what point it gets overwhelming

[Leader8]

: It's similar to how the avatar warden job works now. Gotta individually give all admin+ members the ability to summon avatar

[Leader4]

: thats why if possible...make it so you have to set like a.... set a starting point for each rank automatically as people are ranked up right...
: but then make people individually customizable from that point
: Unless thats what you meant, I'm tired
: cause then you only have to do it once, but can deal with potential problems as they come

[Leader8]

: So you're saying make it so that if you rank someone up to admin, they automatically gain the ability to kick from clan, but then you can remove that ability individually from any admin+ ranks?

[Leader4]

: yeah

Mod Shauny

: Yikes

[Leader4]

: if you chose to give all admin+ that default priv

[Leader7]

: i feel the permisson shouldn't automatically be put on admin+ it should be ticked yes by the owner of clan

Mod Shauny

: Agreed

[Leader7]

: maybe deputy tho

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15-Apr-2018 13:48:34

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2013

J4ron

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[Leader4]

: Cause I'm thinking about bigger clans... like idk if you have like 300 people, I don't want to sit there and have to individually do all 300 people at they ranks they currently are
: It just sounds like such a nasty chore to begin with

Mod Shauny

: Well are you going to give kick perms to 300 people?

[Leader4]

: no xD
: depends if the switch is clicked on by default or not

[Leader6]

: but are you going to have over half the clan as staff?

[Leader4]

: no but

[Leader8]

: So if the update came out, then all current admin+ ranks would lose their ability to kick until it was given back to them individually from the owner?

[Leader7]

: should be off as default and be able to turn on if wanted

[Leader4]

: That would be easiest
: oh feels bad... just saw the mute thing
: Thanks for trying though!

[Leader2]

: i think as rank would be better
: poll it

[Leader4]

: I can see it being useful both ways
: I can kinda see that most people who you want to be able to kick will be recognized with a higher rank anyways
: just depends

Mod Shauny

: If there was any individual perms you can apply to a clan member what would they be?

[Leader4]

: kick...promotions, demotions

[Leader9]

: what about adding/removing from banlist?

[Leader4]

: applying titles

[Leader8]

: Being able to modify clan settings, such as clan vex and whatnot

[Leader7]

: vex is a good one

[Leader4]

: I know individual clannies who cant handle having certain abilities.. like theyd abuse titles and just change them on people willy nilly
: yet other people their rank wouldnt

Mod Shauny

: and that right there is the issue with rank permissions
: And why I dislike them

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15-Apr-2018 13:49:00

Oct

2013

J4ron

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[Leader4]

: so removing that from them would be nice

[Leader8]

: Are individual permissions easier to add into the game than rank permissions Shauny?

Mod Shauny

: Not sure that'll be the fun test

[Leader9]

: it's a shame that ranks are so linear at the moment - organiser is above admin for example, where I feel it would make more sense if they were level ¯\_(&#12484

_/¯

[Leader4]

: ooo, thats a neat idea
: organizer sounds more like a title tbh... like a clan specific job

[Leader1]

: Personally I like having several levels though

[Leader9]

: should be able to use them as a distinction of roles, not distinction of power

Mod Shauny

: I'd be honest with you

[Leader9]

: maybe that's just the equalist inside me talking lol

Mod Shauny

: If I had it my way I'd strip out rank permissions as a whole and have individual stuff

[Leader7]

: rank permissons are easyier to setup tho as a poss to individual staff
: less to do if i make sense

Mod Shauny

: Yeah I know
: I'm tempted to open all permissions for ranks though but only allow owner/dep owners to set which ranks can do what permissions

[Leader7]

: brillant idea
: maybe have setting so owner can chose if dep owners can set which ranks have permissions
: not to confuse it tho

Mod Shauny

: I think I'd just allow a flat out owner/Dep owner
: Because inactive clan issue

[Leader3]

: If were talking about dep owners the ability to star a deputy as the next owner should you leave might be handy
: it will help with inactive clan thread you will already know who to hand the ownership to

-End of conversation (Yay)- Owner of

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15-Apr-2018 13:50:10

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2013

J4ron

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December 23 2017
Category: idea/query

[Leader1]

: on the lines of allowing a deputy to have ability to become owner if owner becomes inactive, what about a new role co-owner? (or named something else) which is inbetween owner and deputy but only 1 person can have the rank just like owner

Mod Shauny

: Adding new roles isn't really viable,Due to the way it's done
: Is rank permissions a current permission that can be toggle or is it hard coded?

[Leader2]

: what do you mean rank permissions?

Mod Shauny

: I need to see how the game decides which dep owner is chosen

[Leader1]

: cant the owner choose?

Mod Shauny

: How would you make the owner choose in-game?

[Leader3]

: I think the idea might need to be communicated more clearly so people understand what they are voting for exactly.

[Leader2]

: ingame option list
: similar to how chat options work
: like when interacting with meg
: dep leaders go on options 1-3
: and 4 is next(edited)
: 5 is previous ( if page > 1)(edited)

[Leader3]

: a checkbox here that says something along the lines of Pass ownership

Mod Shauny

: You'd add a toggle that'd show for everyone's accounts which only relates to saying who you want the next owner to be?
: Also remember all individual permissions could go there as well so that'll need to be tidied up a bit

[Leader1]

: should be able to add under the persons name

[Leader3]

: something that can only be toggled to one person and greys out for everyone else, or changes if you try click 2 to the last one you chose maybe so only 1 person is ever selected at a time

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