RuneScape Forum Archive | For the Love of Clans!!

Jul

2007

Iron Faery

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We had our clan years before Jagex started supporting clans. I do appreciate updates but I also see it when things are built against our good. Citadel made me furious, some other things too. I've been missing Jagex organized Jagex Cup. But we don't let it bother us too much.

I like to create our own systems, manage it as it fits best to us. I have my vision how the clan should shine and live, how it serves the community and makes us happy. I've been running Kirstunael over 11 years. Many who joined as teenagers are parents now. A lot of wisdom and love is shared through the activities, meaningful chats and wise words, leading people to listen and think deeper.

Updates - even when planned as good possible are sometimes disturbing. Honestly. Worse when the plan was weak.

Updates like avatar for admin+ rank turned our ranking principles upside down. Citadel made us think what to do with all the awesome people we recruited from PvM trips and Wildy. I was shocked when I heard clans going to be listed xp wise. I wished my clan to be out of it.

We're born to live and grow as a clan. We can flourish without any additional support. Kirstunael people found enough fun in game. We have nice teaming. PvM like raids, reper tasks, a lot of us still like warbands, sometimes we play Deathmatch. We host skilling events regularly.

One day I found new member was out of cc. When I asked, he said the clan chat was too chatty. Ooh (: ? I asked if any topic disturbed him. No.

I care for cc topics being useful and friendly. Little slips happen but it is still no profanity cc and open. Biggest compliment was when this week a clanny said: Listen to emme. She is wise. Emme - mommy in my language.

Updates can't keep anyone alive...

Most of created clans die to boredom, lack of leadership and energy. Some split due to drama. Next major reason is updates. Clans rapidly died after every big update. Some of them lost people, others lost the spirit and purpose or lost all of it.

27-Sep-2017 05:59:48

Jan

2008

Ladyolake

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Updates cant and wont keep us alive. My clan, my people... that is what keeps us alive. Sure updates are fantastic. I would support any as long as it doesnt break things we already have.

There are things my clan regularly ask for especially new members... What are all those empty plots for at the citadel?? Well, my answer is, it wont be updated the developer of that is gone.

Then i get asked.....Why cant we mute the couple pple that came in cc upset and saying things when really they shouldnt be talking. My answer... Jagex did not build that feature in.

The list goes on and on but, I feel like I make excuses for Jagex to people who are new to Clans or Citadels.

It would just be nice to fix features that should have been built in and sure, it may be as big a job as priff, But i bet we as clans equal more than all the npc's in priff. Each citadel in Runescape put together is bigger than priff.

I do believe Jagex does realize that we are a great deal of its players but as stated so many times everyone wants pvm. But step back, you do have a whole player group that skills. How bout thinking about them at least some of the time.

All in All, its the people inside the clan that makes a clan. Jagex should help us but even if they dont do it or do it poorly, Lake of Rune will still be here, along with all the other dedicated clans. The richest person is not who has the most. It is who Needs the least.

27-Sep-2017 12:14:56

I0wnu4life

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Iron Faery said :

Updates can't keep anyone alive...

Most of created clans die to boredom, lack of leadership and energy. Some split due to drama. Next major reason is updates. Clans rapidly died after every big update. Some of them lost people, others lost the spirit and purpose or lost all of it.

Updates are a key thing for clans to be successful, without updates, there wouldn't be clans in the first place, haha.

Us as clan leaders, people who have entered into the CLF should stand up for these updates. We are here to make clans better and improve our clan members day-to-day within the clan. I want to see more updates towards clans that can benefit everyone inside the clan, including all of the F2P clan leaders. We need to have clan updates across all areas of Runescape.

How can we do this: We can't.

The only way that we can help this go along is to ask for more JMods and to try to get Jagex to understand that we need more than a few active JMods in the CLF and CLD. We need a driven team of clan advocates that want to help improve clans. We need to get clans back on track and move into a new era. The only thing we can do at this point is to run our clans per-normal and try to get Jagex to do something about our lack of attention. We are getting some higher-ups to talk to shortly (I think) so we should be able to see a move of focus (hopefully).

As for the people who are in the clan that make the clan unique. I would say yes, that is a very good thing! But that is not the same for every clan (especially new clans). I personally am still trying to get my clan chat to be more active, and that is not an easy task. My clan members do not know each other too well. I am trying to bring them together.

I want to push everyone to publish some ideas for clans in the CLF or CLD.

I personally am in CLF for one reason.
To make clans better and improve everyone's clan experiences. Professional Noob |

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28-Sep-2017 01:24:57

Jul

2010

Noetica

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Only Lilly said :

It strikes me that Jagex only "respect" streamers that they believe bring more people into this game and seem to favour a small group of players that manage to massage their egos. Maybe they need to look at the bread and butter of the people that play the game. Clans are the foundation of the game, we hold up and support the game by keeping people returning and of course paying membership. How short sighted of jagex to ignore and throw more empty promises at us, the people that genuinely care.

There is a streamer out there with 300 vids and over 293,000 followers. He runs 3 clans, 2 are at 500 members... does any one know his name?? A few of us might do. Was he nominated?? No...

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28-Sep-2017 09:09:50 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2017 09:14:55 by Noetica

May

2007

Only Lilly

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Noetica said :
Only Lilly said :

It strikes me that Jagex only "respect" streamers that they believe bring more people into this game and seem to favour a small group of players that manage to massage their egos. Maybe they need to look at the bread and butter of the people that play the game. Clans are the foundation of the game, we hold up and support the game by keeping people returning and of course paying membership. How short sighted of jagex to ignore and throw more empty promises at us, the people that genuinely care.

There is a streamer out there with 300 vids and over 293,000 followers. He runs 3 clans, 2 are at 500 members... does any one know his name?? A few of us might do. Was he nominated?? No...

please enlighten us then

Proud to say Clan Consentus is now 13 Years old and still going strong.

Visit our active forums Consentus.uk

28-Sep-2017 17:37:45

Jul

2007

Iron Faery

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I0wnu4life, clans were here long before any clan-related updates...
Clans existed when Jagex didn't support them, Jagex allowed only in-game communication but it restricted us a lot.

We created our clan before fc's and cc's existed. Back then it was only public chat and private chat.

If you had clan offsite clan forums and you asked someone to visit it, risked to get muted.
If you asked you clan members Skype or other contact in game, risked to get muted.
But we used Skype voice call for pk.
And we got our clan forums since start too.

One of our clannys got muted because of talking about offsite.

We still existed, we had events, pk trips, clan bank, a lot of fun.

In my opinion clans need just the ground where they can exist. The game itself. It is just like a land where trees can grow, small and big creatures in the forest. This is natural, this brings to us large variety of clans. Who wants to play more agressive way the can be predators in this field, fight each other.

The game is what nudges clans to be more skilling or minigame oriented or pk or pvm or social. Think of it, clans aren't the only form of community in this game. We got also different groups and fc's for every activity. Some of them existed very long without any additional support, you needed only the game to be suitable for activity.

Sometimes they are very clan-like or even based on actual clans, sometimes they serve everyone because it's useful, some people share the same interests. We had very powerful minigame-related clans hosting fc's. Remember Soul Wars in past? The clans and fc's there died when updates changed the game: ground wasn't good anymore.

In my eyes it's natural that people create a lot of content and social structures without being asked, it is part of our nature.

29-Sep-2017 13:45:49

Jul

2007

Iron Faery

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For my clan and every other... the game and it's community is our ground...
What happens with community, it matters.

Game designs the community. How peaceful or aggressive are the rewarding activities in game. Solo or team oriented.

Step by step Jagex relaxed the rules, allowing more freedom of speech but it also made the game welcoming to nasty and immature players. Go to public portables or Trahaern runite or some other place where people got chance to type and you see mindless spam, disturbing and disgusting messages flowing. All the time...

Restrictions help but they're also destructive.

I suggested to add systems that supports being great person, chance to leave a footprint of good attitude, good teaming.

Right now we can only report negative, in game.
When you see someone giving good advice, being good teammate, being nice various ways, motivating, fun, polite, understanding, there's no button for it. It is actually so natural to be nice...

I wonder did Jagex ever do such a social survery: how often people say Hello, Hey, Hi, Congratulations, Good job, Well done or the same things short ways.

One example how the game and activities change community - when Jagex closed old Wildy, the number of offensive language and other reports drastically dropped. I think it was official info with percents, can't remember numbers anymore.

So you removed pk content but also got rid of most aggressive players. They were missed though. It was just side effect.

With adding skilling and solo content next years the game became quiet.
Extra quiet after E o C update.

Every update got it's impact, be careful with that. What kind of player base you want...?
Test it before, would the existing players adapt update? Would they quit over time when it gets unbearably trollish and nasty.

It isn't easy to leave behind people who believe in you. I've been standing against rude, profane community change for many years, can't stay I last forever. Can't say my people last.

29-Sep-2017 15:30:39

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