RuneScape Forum Archive | Clan event problems

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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In our clan we have 2 types of events, regular repeating events that happen on a set day and time and non repeating events, so for example on a Thursday at 8pm game time we host whatever minigame is in the spotlight, but we also repeat PVM and D&D events weekly

As we are a social clan a lot of these events are for fun, we are not competitive gamers it's done to allow the members the chance to attend an event that they couldn't do by themselves

We allow anyone to join in with our events out with our 3 clan community and so far most of the time this is without drama

The event in question that is causing us problems is Soul Wars, we have had a few different clans members join us mainly 1 or 2 people nothing too much, however we gained a regular guest from a clan which rang alarm bells as in there clan motto it states they are minigame crashers

We have had roughly 3 incidents including the most recent which made it a decision as a clan to ask the guest not to come back to play as he is causing to many problems from general name calling to spawn killing to troll and using our cc to argue with members to eventually causing so much drama that I decided that enough was enough

24-Feb-2016 17:33:42

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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My problem is, of course I cannot stop him from showing up, the minigame is open to anyone, they could join later and most probably do it to be a pain.

He has promised to crash us with 10 other clan mates and make our life a living hell and all the other scary stuff that comes from these immature players

Our players are regular players but we would very probably get killed quickly if even 3 of them showed up and thus making all the hard work that has been put into that event useless and most probably leaving us to deal with the fallout from our members in the cc

My question really is what can I do?

The member in question is banned from the cc and as a temp measure we can change the time and date of the event in hopes they will fizzle out fast but I'm loathed to change something that's been happening for a year at the same day and time on a more permanent basis

I'm not sure if I want to reach out to the Clan Leaders of this clan if their motto is to crash minigames as it may turn on us and make us more of a victim

Help please!

Thanks for reading
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24-Feb-2016 17:34:14

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2023

Electric

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I know sadly there are a number of clans which simply and openly specialise in 'trolling'.

Since you've got them banned from your CC, and you can't change your day/time, I would suggest hosting it on a random world and asking all your members/attendees to set their PM's to Friends Only or Off. This can be bypassed, however, if they're smart enough to go to your clan page and check the worlds you are on from the members list. Changing the day/time would be a good idea for several times at least, and then set it back to usual again and by then they'd be very likely to have moved on - it's worth a try as well.

Otherwise, the best solution to crashing always is to be upfront and anti-crash, rather than avoid, since avoiding/giving up is a sign of weakness which crashers continually prey on and are constantly self-validated and reinforced by. If you keep on anti-crashing them successfully, they'll get bored and will move on.

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24-Feb-2016 18:46:27 - Last edited on 24-Feb-2016 19:05:46 by Electric

Feb

2011

Sicariu

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I'm sorry to hear that your clan is having these issues.

I just wanted to point out two things from what Progs said:
Electric said :
I would suggest hosting it on a random world and asking all your members/attendees to set their PM's to Friends Only or Off. This can be bypassed, however, if they're smart enough to go to your clan page and check the worlds you are on from the members list. Actually, there was an update that changed this. If clan members have their online statuses turned Off or on Friends Only, the Clan Page will say that they are not online. This will only show players as online if it is set to On.

Electric said :
If you keep on anti-crashing them successfully, they'll get bored and will move on. I completely agree with this statement.

Coming from personal experience, anti-crashing can help build a LOT of motivation for your clan members if you're successful. Plus it can become quite fun. My clan was built off of successfully anti-crashing at Corp, and this pushed us to become very competitive in our early stages which ultimately led to a more stable clan environment. ~ Sicariu
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24-Feb-2016 19:05:20

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2023

Electric

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Sicariu said :
Actually, there was an update that changed this. If clan members have their online statuses turned Off or on Friends Only, the Clan Page will say that they are not online. This will only show players as online if it is set to On.

That's awesome to hear, would be a great solution then.

And yes, anti-crashing (and successfully) is great fun - whenever I get crashed at abyss, for example, I no longer care about my xp and just focus on anti-crashing, even if it took me all day. Sometimes I call a group of friends as well who come to help, and the crasher gets bored and gives up very shortly after and moves on to prey on someone easier/weaker than you.

Crashers are basically losers, and like all trolls, they get their entertainment out of two things: Making other people's lives miserable, and the attention (which they lack) that they are getting from it. As a first resort, I always completely ignore them and try to give them no attention (as if they don't exist) - mostly the crasher/troll just gets bored and moves on, but it depends on the situation sometimes and a lot of people are usually unable to keep on ignoring them. As the ultimate solution, you need to deny them the entertainment by successfully anti-crashing them, and then they're simply done.

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24-Feb-2016 19:12:15 - Last edited on 24-Feb-2016 19:29:46 by Electric

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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Electric said :

Otherwise, the best solution to crashing always is to be upfront and anti-crash, rather than avoid, since avoiding/giving up is a sign of weakness which crashers continually prey on and are constantly self-validated and reinforced by. If you keep on anti-crashing them successfully, they'll get bored and will move on.

We have tried this for pking during Penguins when a specific clan that was formed of a few of our old members decided they wanted war, however sadly, although a few of us have max stats we certainly lack in experience, i will however give it a try if we cannot get rid of them by putting our online status to friends or offline

Thanks for the info as well Sicariu this may be our safest option

I'm sure if we put our minds to it we could collectively bring together a good team to anti crash but my usual way of thinking is don't even give them the satisfaction of thinking we care enough.... even if we do

Fingers crossed for next weeks Soul Wars to be less dramatic

Why is anything that involves PKing so stressful even if its safe!

24-Feb-2016 21:06:13

Fire Hawk154

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It's a competitive game, get better and beat those sore losers! PKing isn't stressful at all, you just have to accept a loss, learn from it, and use it to get better. If you don't want to get better, you either shouldn't PvP or you shouldn't get mad when someone who's better at EoC walks over you.

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25-Feb-2016 08:28:51

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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Fire Hawk154 said :
If you don't want to get better, you either shouldn't PvP or you shouldn't get mad when someone who's better at EoC walks over you.

I’m not "getting mad" at anyone for beating me in a PKing environment I really enjoy soul wars and I enjoy learning new ways to get as much dps as possible, I of course get killed and I laugh my way through it because it’s fun and challenging, I find it however very cheeky of the guest to join in with a clan run event which is run in a particular way, ours is competitive but we do not have a whole team sitting spawn killing the other, as a social clan we have members playing that have 32 combat for example, if a 138 combat in full minigame get up was to spawn kill them essentially making 20 mins of the game in the graveyard there is a chance they are going to walk out the portal

It’s a competitive game, but if you play in a clan you play by that clan’s rules so it’s not a matter of get better it’s a matter of people should respect what they are getting for free and play by the rules much as you would in real life.

I do understand that your statement is meant as a pep talk and to get us motivated to kick some behind and I appreciate you doing that, but I can’t help feeling deflated by some guest’s attitude.

Also we all have to start somewhere, myself I don’t PK in the wildy as a choice, this is because I’m hopeless at it and also because I don’t want to lose my stuff, I like my stuff, soul wars is different, it could just be a painful 20 minutes to play while you get killed every 30 seconds and your avatar is on its 6th kill that game, but that again is all irrelevant, the notion that you have to be good at something or give up and don’t complain isn’t fair, it’s basically saying is a bully is stronger than you, give up and don’t complain that the bully is doing anything to you because you’re not good enough to speak up.

25-Feb-2016 09:32:08

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2021

Sani btw

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Soul Wars (and other minigames alike) have always been a place where stuff similar to this happens.

There is literally nothing you can do other than ignoring them or hopping worlds/changing the time of the event.

25-Feb-2016 10:37:13

Jan

2010

Chunksofplum

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Sani btw said :
Soul Wars (and other minigames alike) have always been a place where stuff similar to this happens.

There is literally nothing you can do other than ignoring them or hopping worlds/changing the time of the event.

Yeah Ive noticed minigames seem to have a hostile atmosphere if the people attending have the wrong attitude

I think as suggested offline mode and a change of time/day for a temp measure should hopefully shake the pests off

25-Feb-2016 18:43:15

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