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Fire Hawk154

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Guardian Elf said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
90-95% of cancer can be avoided by having a healthy lifestyle. So I don't think check-ups are the most important thing, living healthy is. :)
I also hope cigarettes will be banned soon, and cigarette companies prosecuted for murder. It's quite ridiculous they get away with it now.

What an ignorant perspective. For your sake I hope you're trolling.

Fire Hawk154 said :
So I don't think check-ups are the most important thing"

Nawhhh, you're right, everyone lives in a plastic bubble and has perfect genetics so who needs check-ups, why be preventive when you can suffer a crippling life and die in excruciating pain.

Fire Hawk154 said :
cigarette companies prosecuted for murder. It's quite ridiculous they get away with it now.

That and ignorant people.

It's ignorant to prefer preventing 90-95% from getting cancer above check ups, which statistically only 5-10% would require? I would call that being rational. The goal is to have as few victims as possible while finding a cure. If we can cut down the number of victims massively by promoting a healthy lifestyle and banning shit that causes cancer, then I think that should be the main priority. There's a lot of progress being made towards finding a cure, but it's not there yet. I never said check ups weren't important, so I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal out of it. If you don't agree with my perspective you're free to say so, but that's no excuse for being disrespectful.
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07-Oct-2016 19:36:31

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Fire Hawk154 said :
Guardian Elf said :
Fire Hawk154 said :
90-95% of cancer can be avoided by having a healthy lifestyle. So I don't think check-ups are the most important thing, living healthy is. :)
I also hope cigarettes will be banned soon, and cigarette companies prosecuted for murder. It's quite ridiculous they get away with it now.

What an ignorant perspective. For your sake I hope you're trolling.

Fire Hawk154 said :
So I don't think check-ups are the most important thing"

Nawhhh, you're right, everyone lives in a plastic bubble and has perfect genetics so who needs check-ups, why be preventive when you can suffer a crippling life and die in excruciating pain.

Fire Hawk154 said :
cigarette companies prosecuted for murder. It's quite ridiculous they get away with it now.

That and ignorant people.

It's ignorant to prefer preventing 90-95% from getting cancer above check ups, which statistically only 5-10% would require? I would call that being rational. The goal is to have as few victims as possible while finding a cure. If we can cut down the number of victims massively by promoting a healthy lifestyle and banning shit that causes cancer, then I think that should be the main priority. There's a lot of progress being made towards finding a cure, but it's not there yet. I never said check ups weren't important, so I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal out of it. If you don't agree with my perspective you're free to say so, but that's no excuse for being disrespectful.

And lets no derail the thread with a fight, its all about raising the awareness. Cancer can strike anyone anywhere anytime, doesn't matter if you are healthy or not, its ruthless and attacks anyone, any age.

Lets just promote!
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08-Oct-2016 00:10:07

Guardian Elf
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@Fire Hawk154

You do realize you posted on a Cancer Awareness thread, stating that check-ups aren't important. THAT, is what I find disrespectful.

I've lost several family members these last few years because of cancer being detected in a too late stage. If it wasn't for awareness, I'd have most likely lost another.

Don't you even dare speak of respect, you're ignorant of what cancer means.

(Edit - PS: I will make no further comments regarding what Hawk said (or may say). Spread awareness people, that's what it's all about.) Pleasure in the job, puts perfection in the work.

08-Oct-2016 00:34:34 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2016 01:05:30 by Guardian Elf

Cherish Hope
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Hi Krisi,

Our clan will once again be supporting cancer awareness month and will be wearing pink, (or purple), As you know our clan had a strong support on the cancer awareness congo line last year, so we will try and attend that.

Can you please make a day, time and place to meet so our clanmates know when it is going to be held?
Take care,
Cheers
Cherish

08-Oct-2016 06:06:22 - Last edited on 08-Oct-2016 06:15:18 by Cherish Hope

Fire Hawk154

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Krisi said :
Cancer can strike anyone anywhere anytime, doesn't matter if you are healthy or not, its ruthless and attacks anyone, any age.
No it doesn't, that's a misconception. Health plays a major role in cancer, both mental and physical health. It's like saying lightning can strike anyone anywhere anytime, but if you're out in an open field with a massive iron rod pointed at the sky you're far more likely to get hit. It can still strike anyone but it's far less likely. There are many things that increase the chances of getting cancer, which can be avoided. Making people aware of risk factors would help decrease the number of people getting cancer massively.


@Guardian Elf, I'm sorry to hear about your losses. Nowhere did I say check ups weren't important though, so I'm not sure why you keep repeating that.
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08-Oct-2016 11:31:31

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Fire Hawk154 said :
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Are you intentionally trolling now?
Yes, some alterations in lifestyle can change the likelihood of a few cancers, but you can still be struck by cancer no matter what.
Check-Ups, either by doing it by yourself, with a doctor or a partner, are absolutely vital in helping to find potential signs. Best case scenario? You visit your Doctor, they take a sample, it comes back clear. However, it's still vital to check.

A couple of years back my dog was diagnosed with cancer. She was young, in great health and showed no other signs of illnesses or issues. She still developed cancer. Unfortunately, because we weren't aware and just thought she had toothache, we had it diagnosed too late and she died 6 months after diagnosis.
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08-Oct-2016 12:29:11

Fire Hawk154

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Can you guys not read? Nowhere did I say check ups weren't important .
Of course you can come up with cases in which people or dogs got cancer through genetics or bad luck, that's called a distribution. I have quite some cases of cancer around me as well, but that's completely irrelevant in this discussion. Considering you've lost family members, it's likely to be genetic so check ups are highly advised in your family. But in many cases it really isn't genetic, it's because people make poor lifestyle choices. Vouching for check ups but ignoring the health aspects is ridiculous. In life there are things we can control and things we can't control. It's more important to look at the things we can control (like a healthy diet, exercise, not smoking, not consuming too much alcohol, etc) to reduce the chances of getting cancer (and many other diseases as well). I don't mind if you don't agree with me, but there's no reason to insult me for having a different perspective.
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08-Oct-2016 13:07:32

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@ Fire Hawk154

Think Pink - Cancer Awareness supports those affected by cancer. It's also a means to raise awareness about the importance of getting check-ups since early detection is important.

It's not about reasons why some people are afflicted. Telling someone with cancer that if they'd just done "this" or not done "that" they wouldn't be sick is rather callous and hurtful.

Don't you do this every year when this comes up? You DO have the option to just scroll past the thread and not comment.

08-Oct-2016 16:53:23

Fire Hawk154

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Sorry, I was under the impression Cancer Awareness was about making people more aware of the disease so less people would fall victim to it.

It's very much about reasons why some people are afflicted, as it's not just 'some' people. Research from 2015 showed 90% of cancers could be prevented by avoiding certain triggers based on lifestyle. I'm not telling anyone "you shouldn't have done this or that", that's not the point. The point is to reduce the number of people getting cancer in the future, which we can. If you're fine with all the millions of people getting cancer in the future while it can be avoided, just say so. I'm not okay with it, it's a horrible disease nobody should have or get.

I didn't post on previous Think Pink topics, that was Zyphix.
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