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Scret
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Theres just not the commitment from the company as a whole to run these comps, so i say either commit or just leave it as last years was half done due to the lack of support from a full team rather than down to a few individuals.

The whole structure of the company is a complete mess if you ask me, no wonder a lot of J Mods jumped ship.
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03-Jul-2016 15:43:18 - Last edited on 03-Jul-2016 15:46:53 by Scret

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Yt-Haar said :
Ceecs said :
When I asked few days ago why I did not recieve an answer to my mail regarding clan cup logos Mod Maz replied this:

Ceecs said :
Mod Maz said :
Two things are holding this up Ceecs. One is clans not getting us their logos to spec and the other is my weekends being eaten by other things like a trip in an ambulance, xrays and all that kind of fun stuff.


Thanks for the update. And take care :)


With all due respect to Maz, I hope she recovers. This responsibility is not solely hers though, Matthe said the same thing months ago to me. It's also down to the design team to produce something, not Maz or Matthe. They are pretty much saying because 1 clan is being slow at giving them a submission (and don't seem to be chasing them up about it) they are putting all the other clans on hold. It's ridiculous, I gave them a picture to work with in March and 4 months later, they've made no effort to produce anything for us because 1 clan hasn't given them an appropriate design..?
Surely it wouldn't be an unreasonable request for the arts team to get to work the the designs they have at the moment..

I really can't understand how a company as large as Jagex, is struggling to stick to a reasonable deadline to provide a small novelty reward for their players. It's embarrassing that things didn't get a move on until several reddit posts were made which highlighted how poorly organised things have been.

clan leaders didn't make a fuss throughout all this, we probably wouldn't be receiving anything (assuming we will eventually get it)
I'm not sure if we would even bother competing in a cup this year given how poorly things have been handled.


I would quite happily submit something for our clan in their place =)
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03-Jul-2016 15:44:45

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I didn't take part in the clan cup last year or the year before. I thought that last years probably went the smoothest in terms of rules that they've ever gone. I also think with the updated runemetrics and the summer high scores thingy with pure xp counter, it was a test for the clan cup.

I felt 2 years ago they advertised it and hyped it up a lot better. Last year was a lot quieter, I feel this may have been down to Mod Osbourne being able to hype his own things up.

Rewards for clan cups have ALWAYS been slow coming. And I feel if prizes weren't given at all, there would still be a decent attendance of clans. They definitely need to either be quicker with prizes or not bother at all.

I helped run the clan cup 3 years ago and I would happily try to run it again if it was handed to the players. The main problem has always been tracking data, -which we have a lot less access to and therefore would limit the competitions substantially- especially since the last 2 years they've added questing and pvm types of competition which us players would not have access to.
If it does fall to players, we'll need a fair amount of us to coordinate tracking and brainstorming here of alternative competitions.

I feel there are a fair amount of Jmods who are passionate about clans. Timbo, Kelpie and of course Maz and Matthe as well as others. But they are all busy with other things. Perhaps with the clan Runelabs thing, Jagex will task some Jmods to clans.
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03-Jul-2016 16:29:34

Ceecs
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Yt-Haar said :

With all due respect to Maz, I hope she recovers. This responsibility is not solely hers though, Matthe said the same thing months ago to me. It's also down to the design team to produce something, not Maz or Matthe. They are pretty much saying because 1 clan is being slow at giving them a submission (and don't seem to be chasing them up about it) they are putting all the other clans on hold. It's ridiculous, I gave them a picture to work with in March and 4 months later, they've made no effort to produce anything for us because 1 clan hasn't given them an appropriate design..?
Surely it wouldn't be an unreasonable request for the arts team to get to work the the designs they have at the moment..

I really can't understand how a company as large as Jagex, is struggling to stick to a reasonable deadline to provide a small novelty reward for their players. It's embarrassing that things didn't get a move on until several reddit posts were made which highlighted how poorly organised things have been.

As you can tell, this whole situation really frustrates me and I feel that if myself and other clan leaders didn't make a fuss throughout all this, we probably wouldn't be receiving anything (assuming we will eventually get it)
I'm not sure if we would even bother competing in a cup this year given how poorly things have been handled.


I am frustated about it too, but I don't know what the mods are working on. So it is not our jobs to say how unorganised they are. She says weekends so I assume she must do this in that 'free time' I heard the mods speak of, when they do solo projects?

I hope the logos come soon anyway :)
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04-Jul-2016 09:41:36 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2016 09:41:54 by Ceecs

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Ceecs said :


I am frustated about it too, but I don't know what the mods are working on. So it is not our jobs to say how unorganised they are. She says weekends so I assume she must do this in that 'free time' I heard the mods speak of, when they do solo projects?

I hope the logos come soon anyway :)


9 months+ is not a reasonable delivery time. The clan plaque could of been updated the week after the cup finished, perhaps the issue is prioritisation rather than organisation but its still not acceptable to lead us on for so long.
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04-Jul-2016 11:39:44

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We are not planning to run a Clan Cup in 2016.

We are trying to get the outstanding prizes resolved as quickly as possible, but the nature of development and testing means that they need to be delivered as a package, rather than piecemeal. We are taking measures to remove those blocks though, so that you do not have to endlessly wait for your goodies.
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04-Jul-2016 12:50:51

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Calm Enigma said :
Would you like us to take a shot at running it again Matthe?


Entirely up to you - If you want to run a player run one I am sure we would support it, but we are not able to run one ourselves this year.
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04-Jul-2016 16:51:42

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Gluepot said :
Calm Enigma said :
Would you like us to take a shot at running it again Matthe?

I think there's enough warning that we should have time to put something together :)

For sure, we can definitely get a group of people together and brainstorm how to offer the most fun and viable competitions given our limited access to data etc.


Mod Matthe said :
Calm Enigma said :
Would you like us to take a shot at running it again Matthe?


Entirely up to you - If you want to run a player run one I am sure we would support it, but we are not able to run one ourselves this year.

Okee dokes. Regarding support, if Jagex could lend us a hand with rewards and advertising that would be great (without that support I doubt the Cup would be much of a success). Of course the exact details could be worked out when we have a plan for the competitions we feel we can offer, their format and your opinion on those - but I'd just like to make sure that support for advertising and rewards is possible before we start putting time into this?
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04-Jul-2016 18:51:41 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2016 18:52:07 by Calm Enigma

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