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Krieger49
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I agree that other capes should not be stripped and i understood ur thinking of creating an account 20 years earlier and having a benefit for not being in this game for this time.

Im not sure in how many cases this thinking comes true and its a specific example for ignoring, that many capes in the past were reworked to get specific effects on it. Skillcapes for an example. In the past they were also only cosmetic and gave the stat boost of +1, today they have beneficial effects and have a justified usage for reaching lvl 120.

Jagex managed to Revise many capes for being in usage or adjust New capes that were introduced for having their specific effects like a zuk cape for pvm.

The Veteran capes were overlooked and still have only an authorization of being cosmetic, like many capes were in the past. These capes should also get a rework for having a usage and it should not just be profitable in f2p. Getting these capes is like a "congratz of being so long here, Keep this present in your Bank, because there are better capes in usage"

And i repeat, compared to what jagex did in the past to other capes, the Veteran capes were overlooked.

27-Oct-2022 10:56:34 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 11:14:20 by Krieger49

Rikornak
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Have they forgotten the classic cape by not giving it more than token stats? I do not think so - since having logged into classic once also is no actual gameplay milestone, it's just a nice nod from their side.

The skillcapes - as actual gameplay milestones for reaching level 99 in a skill - and in 6 skills even level 120 - have an actual justification to be decent capes - actually happened even earlier (before they got their perks) when they've gotten mild combat stats with the EoC (actually just like your veteran capes, those just to an even lesser degree). Since 120 is all non-virtual skills is no milestone either, they're not intended to provide benefits and thus are exactly the same as their 99 counterparts. It will be following an extension - happened to farming and herblore before.

Of course it wasn't needed to give them anything at all, since they kinda worked as prestige objects as well - there are lots of accomplishments solely giving out cosmetic things - soul capes, comp cape post rework, you call it - but in this case there was nothing wrong with giving them mild stats and their exclusive perks.

Big difference to just having an account created in 2002 and left it be. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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27-Oct-2022 11:16:42 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 11:24:00 by Rikornak

Krieger49
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Not everyone who owns one of these capes left the accounts for years.

And i understood that you are against this idea by keeping up the thoughts, that someone left the Accounts for 20 years and gets a present for this interaction.

I want to Hear other opinions

27-Oct-2022 11:21:36

Rikornak
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Let me ask it the other way around - what in your eyes is the actual justification for this thing to provide more benefits than it already does?

Your reasoning basically so far is - there are other cosmetic capes, that were made into actual items - but in here there also are actual items, that were reduced to cosmetics - like the comp cape. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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27-Oct-2022 11:27:42 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 11:29:54 by Rikornak

Krieger49
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It is the reason for getting a present wich has the right to exist inside the bank because many other capes were reworked and have a specific usage. If i want to skill i would rather to wear a skillcape than a Veteran cape. If i want to pvm i would rather to use max/comp/zuk than a Veteran cape.
The usage is missing

27-Oct-2022 11:33:48 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 11:34:19 by Krieger49

Rikornak
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If it's just that - I would support handing out a free cosmetic override akin to other items mainly intended to be used as cosmetics - like the comp cape following its rework. So you basically could see your present, but wouldn't devalue any kind of progression - and if it's just something as early as getting an obsidian or legends cape.

And maybe it will help to see those capes more often. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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27-Oct-2022 12:09:35 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 12:19:40 by Rikornak

Krieger49
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At least making it to a cosmetic override gives them a usage but otherwise you can also buy the cosmetic override Keys and just put it inside.

This would still be a low appreciation of spending years and years inside a game in the case that each Interaction inside the games has a better benefit by using other capes and keeping the veteran capes inside the bank.

I still dont understand why capes in general get a rework for giving them special usages while capes "wich seriously take the longest time to get" will be overlooked.

And actually it would be nice to Hear other opinions than Urs, i told you several Times that i understood ur opinion of being against this idea by getting Stuck inside the Idea that someone gets beneficial effects for leaving his account for many years. But in many cases this is maybe not true and in general this is your own opinion.

These capes have been overlooked in the progression of cape effects and this is fact.
A cape wich takes longer calculated in time than getting the "Master Max/comp cape trimmed" deserves a rework.

27-Oct-2022 21:11:55 - Last edited on 27-Oct-2022 22:08:15 by Krieger49

Vead
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As also someone with a 20-year cape, I disagree that they should be something more than purely cosmetic. Aside from existing this long, there's no true achievement that warrants benefit :P . - (Owner) Ornery Onions -
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28-Oct-2022 00:40:53

Draco Burnz
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Jeremy Cheng said :
Depending on how much bonuses veteran capes could give like what OP described, I could see this being a decent alternative to other capes. I wouldn't support double drop though as that would Devalue hsr.

Just saying, but vet capes are already one of if not the best cape in f2p as is.

Thus no need to make them any more OP.
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28-Oct-2022 00:49:20 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2022 00:49:39 by Draco Burnz

Krieger49
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Krieger49

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Well, i would like to know how many people who exist 10/15/20 years are still playing on f2p...

Doesnt make sense to me to Consider these capes being op just for the f2p Version.

And in comparison... in the past where no Veteran capes existed skillcapes had also only cosmetic aspects plus they were one of the best f2p capes and not even one Person was against the new beneficial cape effects wich they gained to give them a specific and unique usage. They were Similar in Function to what a Veteran cape is nowadays for the f2p Version.

Surely i am talking what i am thinking about that and it is my opinion and doesnt have to count for everyone but it still doesnt make sense to me to overlook especially these capes wich should be an extremely high if not even the highest achievement and appreciation Since all the other capes have been revised.

28-Oct-2022 14:56:42 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2022 15:44:05 by Krieger49

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