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Brylee

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Tbh, a small icon of around 5 KBS in size (times 500+ bank spaces) is only 2.5 MB per player, times around 150,000 in players online daily would only be 375,000 GB in total ... (Had to recalculate, I was thinking KB size) They do have more the one server tho lmao

To have a server strain EVERYONE would have to go into their bank at the same time, but I think most of this is in our cache.

Bank space is free, the price of the bank spaces is determined and valued by Jagex. It could be free if they wanted because it's nothing, literally nothing but a paywall.

Also, people have the right to be wrong in certain situations, when they think they're right.

Other than that, F2P is a way to get players to get membership essentially, it is similar to a trial that has no time limit on it, there isn't any right to play for free, it's a privilege, they could of taken away F2P whenever they wanted honestly and make it a members only platform.

As for the bank spaces for F2P, there are some free bank boosters in Solomon's store for everyone to get for free.

It can still be somewhat of a problem with bank space for F2P and with new skills that require more bank space for new items. F2P should have a bit more bank space according to F2P skills and when they are released.

They really could use a rethink of the default bank space given for F2P, however, I can't see it being more then 25 to 75 extra spaces at maximum.

But none of us really can say with any certainty because the majority of us do not work for Jagex, this is a suggestion post ... Meaning an idea or suggestion or an opinion for in-game content by an in-game player.

The best you can do is hope Jagex sees your views and adds it, otherwise, the only options at the moment is buying membership with a bond or with money or buying bank boosters and also, Amazon Gaming loot, also, at times have a currency pack that is available for Runescape, which usually includes Runecoins. That could be used for bank boosters as well.
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16-Oct-2022 23:53:49 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2022 00:15:21 by Brylee

Sylvanheart
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I concur with what Krystl said on the first page. And I think veterans very often forget what it's like to be a new player. Expecting them to play like hardened veterans who have long since figured out how to deduce everything to its most efficient form is ridiculous. But, being veterans, we are so out of touch with that new player experience that we act like it's the simplest thing in the world to think about all the things we do.

Anyways, I agree that it would be nice to help new players out in this regard somehow. However, simply increasing bank space is not the answer. There will never be enough bank space. Hell, there isn't even enough bank space for a lot of veterans with membership (depending on how "worthwhile" we each define certain items... and also depending on whether the player is Iron or not). They could change the bank space to 1000 for F2P, and new players would still fill it all. Because as was said: new players have no concept of what has "value". Everything is new and exciting. And they don't necessarily know how to get some of the items again. So of course, they hold on to everything .

And that's fine. Or it really should be. So I think the real question is, how do we rework the bank system to get rid of space issues for good?

Adding endless space isn't the answer. Even if it was, it's expensive for Jagex. Consolidating various items together helps, but only really for veterans who have the knowledge. Not to mention the unlocks or cash, since such items are usually released as high-end items due to their desirability (which is actually kind of silly, but we've gotten so used to it that it doesn't seem that way anymore).

17-Oct-2022 11:44:11 - Last edited on 17-Oct-2022 11:52:24 by Sylvanheart

Sylvanheart
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I think what we really need is a full restructuring of how the bank works at its core. I am no programmer, so I don't know exactly what can be done. But they need to change it so space doesn't cost them so much. We should really have an interface with placeholders for every item in the game, which only appear once the player has obtained at least one of that item previously. And which can be organized in whatever way the player likes.

Perhaps that might be possible by having a sort of global shared bank in the system that all players access. The only data the system needs to log is therefore how many of each item is designated to each player, rather than which items that player has in the first place. That is to say, if there are 20000 items in the game, then they only need 20000 bank spaces in the entire game. All players access those same 20000 spaces, and the data saved on that character designates how many of the items are visible/accessible to that player. Sounds like insane crap, I know. But actually nothing would change; your bank would look exactly the same (except for placeholders added for every item in the game). It's just that behind the scenes it would be withdrawing from a giant collected pool of everyone's items.

But yeah... this might not actually save them space. I'm just thinking out loud, really. Also, I could totally see there being some catastrophic bug where people end up being able to withdraw other peoples' items O_o ...

17-Oct-2022 11:50:32

Tenebri
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Sylvanheart said :
I think what we really need is a full restructuring of how the bank works at its core. I am no programmer, so I don't know exactly what can be done. But they need to change it so space doesn't cost them so much. .


im sure they would love to know too lol
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17-Oct-2022 16:13:30

Adarajin
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Aiming at optimizing for new players, in order to prevent this from becoming as much an issue in the first place, Jagex should probably make the Wise Old Man and his services somewhat more prominent to new players, and perhaps also expand upon his abilities to saying "you can easily re-acquire this, you don't to hoard it" as well as "you dont' need that anymore" (and expand the 'not needed' category to include things like burnt food lol) Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
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19-Oct-2022 00:36:06

Rikornak
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Adarajin said :
Aiming at optimizing for new players, in order to prevent this from becoming as much an issue in the first place, Jagex should probably make the Wise Old Man and his services somewhat more prominent to new players, and perhaps also expand upon his abilities to saying "you can easily re-acquire this, you don't to hoard it" as well as "you dont' need that anymore" (and expand the 'not needed' category to include things like burnt food lol)


You're not using the wise old man for ages for that anymore - this function is integrated in the bank filters - albeit those might be too aggressive, since they also would get rid of items, you'd have to reclaim for a fee (like slayer masks or silverhawk boots). But they basically tell you if items are unneeded or if they have functionality where to get them again - just not shown in the bank tutorial (albeit - how many players would actually read it)
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