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Jeremy Cheng
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Jeremy Cheng

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hopping and succeeding means double loot. sometimes it works sometimes it fails.
At the expense of other players.

it i a competitive game so yeah unfortunately that happens

It's not a competitive event, it's cooperative one. You could not hope for a second reward without the previous effort of the players whose game you ruin.
And if it's a competitive event, then you should be banned for unfair advantage, since you get your reward and then ruin the other players' one.

We have just lost flash wild on w211 because of hoppers. They were not looking for a double reward, they have just hopped to ruin our game on purpose. They were making fun of us during the whole last minute, celebrating how they were able to ruin our event.

Please Jagex stop this. It's unfair advantage and disruptive behaviour.
Agreed. Temp bans are needed for flash event griefers.

21-Nov-2022 00:53:57

Rikornak
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hopping and succeeding means double loot. sometimes it works sometimes it fails.
At the expense of other players.

it i a competitive game so yeah unfortunately that happens

It's not a competitive event, it's cooperative one. You could not hope for a second reward without the previous effort of the players whose game you ruin.
And if it's a competitive event, then you should be banned for unfair advantage, since you get your reward and then ruin the other players' one.

We have just lost flash wild on w211 because of hoppers. They were not looking for a double reward, they have just hopped to ruin our game on purpose. They were making fun of us during the whole last minute, celebrating how they were able to ruin our event.

Please Jagex stop this. It's unfair advantage and disruptive behaviour.

Since technically you can complete events just fine alone, I rather would question why the team contribution exists at all.

Imagine the following scenario: The event runs for full 5 minutes and as soon as you've hit your personal quota, you'll receive your reward and are free to go. That isn't a full solution for multi staged events, but it would work perfectly fine for every single standard one.

And other than that - they could make a daily d&d out of it. You'll only receive one very wild sack (albeit with much more loot rolls) per day, but you can earn as many of the regular ones as you'd like (for xp, achievement progress and the wild sack). Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

21-Nov-2022 07:53:42 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2022 09:18:25 by Rikornak

Jil L
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Since technically you can complete events just fine alone, I rather would question why the team contribution exists at all.

Imagine the following scenario: The event runs for full 5 minutes and as soon as you've hit your personal quota, you'll receive your reward and are free to go. That isn't a full solution for multi staged events, but it would work perfectly fine for every single standard one.

And other than that - they could make a daily d&d out of it. You'll only receive one very wild sack (albeit with much more loot rolls) per day, but you can earn as many of the regular ones as you'd like (for xp, achievement progress and the wild sack).
Please believe me, I have nothing against those who try and get double reward by hopping world and playing it fair, I respect them. But I still think it's a cooperative event for I don't think one player could ever win it by soloing it.

The problem is this event works in a way that allows trolls to ruin other players' effort just for the sake of being annoying.
Just imagine the following scenario: players in world xyz are about to win the event... then suddenly their attempt becomes futile because some hoppers join the event at the very last minute and they do not help, they simply stay there doing nothing or they just fight npcs, they just hop for the sake of trolling. It mostly happens with the evil tree event, that's the longest of them all and it's one of the best imo.
I've personally experienced this a few times and I've stopped doing flash wild events for it's just a waste of time. Is this fair?

23-Nov-2022 23:54:45 - Last edited on 23-Nov-2022 23:55:57 by Jil L

Rikornak
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It is an issue as you've correctly acknowledged - but the issue lies less within players wanting to maximize their rewards (as they're allowed by the game mechanic), but rather in that team contribution, that literally provides zero value for that content (since I said it - you can beat those things alone - they scale to the number of players in place, if you're alone you basically just have to turn in twice your personal contribution in order to finish it).

I mean sure - the bloodwood tree is extremely unlikely to be beaten a second time, since it for yourself just depends on the previous stage, which likely already is beaten on the second world by the time players would hop (unless it already has failed altogether). But that can easily be fixed from your side by doing it on a world with a more vast population. And for that matter the tree really is the odd one out due to its special functionality - you easily could do a second infernal star or KBD - maybe even a third one for the latter. Let alone speak of the regular events.

The flash events have a couple of flaws - but the issue is less in allowing players to hop to try for a second time, but rather literally encouraging them to do so. Make the core more reasonable to obtain, make the very wild sack a once/twice daily d&d with increased rewards - that all can fix it. Focus on the solution, rather than the problem. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

24-Nov-2022 05:59:50 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2022 06:03:52 by Rikornak

I Robustus
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This is for game designers Don't know if they will read but I feel better saying it

LONG time player (I go back to old school when it was simply "RuneScape&quot ;) World hoppers are ruining this event It seems like a simple coding issue to prevent them for spoiling the experience of other world

Thank you for considering this issue

15-Apr-2023 17:06:52

I Robustus
Jun Member 2007

I Robustus

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This is for game designers Don't know if they will read but I feel better saying it

LONG time player (I go back to old school when it was simply "RuneScape&quot ;) World hoppers are ruining this event It seems like a simple coding issue to prevent them for spoiling the experience of other world

Thank you for considering this issue

15-Apr-2023 17:06:54

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