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Xanadeus
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[#ZHDJ2632L] said :
I was undwr the impression that the game being so old and the playerbase also in general having decade old accounts, they are all prpbably very rich. For jagex to entice new players they need a much higher rate of inflation thwy have currently to give everyone a more equal standing ground

but for some reason folks on this thread think inflation is a bad thing, which is weird because their reasoning is sound if you dont consider that this is a game with infinite reaources and infinite bank spaces


I have witnessed a lot of players complaining about the cost of items they want and cannot afford.

To me, having items in the game you cannot afford is what makes a game awesome, something to work toward, goals and goals that are player determined rather than predetermined paths designed by Jagex.

In 2005 I decided I wanted a party hat. I played for hours a day, almost every day, for almost two years working very hard and saving every gold coin to get it. I finally did buy it. That purple party hat represented thousands of hours of playing. It was something I was very proud to have achieved.

Unfortunately someone stole all my items from my account years later.

Today if Jagex suddenly released purple party hats again and I got one that way, it would mean nothing to me or most anyone else. I realize they will never release it again and I am glad for that even though I no longer have one. It is not the item that is desired, it's the goal of obtaining something that very few are willing to do what it takes to get it that makes those items so sought after.

If you make everything easy you end up with a game, or life, without meaning or purpose.

Why does the game need to be equal standing? To me that would be a very boring and useless existence. If everyone can obtain an item who will want that item? It would be like a bronze dagger.

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10-Feb-2023 07:39:08

Ruby_Red0
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Xanadeus said :
PrblyMyFault said :
How about not charging players to play a game that they have already paid to play?


I do not understand how this comment applies to my post or what you mean?


Of course you dont understand, since you dont understand the tax to begin with. Dont feel bad. You are not alone in that.

Well, its kinda complicated - involving Ironmen and Alching Machines and allegedly subsidizing PVMers death costs to allegedly get more players interested in PVM - but overall its rather simple really.

We pay to play the game, whatever aspect of this heavily diverse game we choose to play. We might pay in real life cash, or with the fruit of our labor in the actual game by buying Bonds with ingame Gps through the GE.

In either case, the person is saying they are paying twice. Once for membership and again on the fruit of their labor sold through the GE.

Anyone selling Bonds on the GE is going to want the going rate for those Bonds +5% to cover the 2% tax that will be deducted by the GE for the tax. Not 5% because they are greedy, but its quicker and easier to press +5% than to whip out our calculators to try to figure out how much the tax will actually take.

I would think the tax sucks for everyone in general. I have yet to see a player exclaim, 'Hot Damn! We have a GE tax!' :D

However, it would really be a sore spot for those that use ingame Gps to secure their membership through Bonds. It might not prove to be worth it anymore for them. I dont know, time will tell.

Now, I think PVM is about to take a blow in participation with the release of Fort Forinthy. But, maybe not.

Some people point out that other games have House Use Fees. Runescape is not other games. Other games dont have worthless items that will cost billions. Other games have Land Mounts and Flying Mounts, Guild Banks and so on.

Anyway, I hope that added some to your understanding of the topic.
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10-Feb-2023 21:16:21 - Last edited on 10-Feb-2023 21:37:43 by Ruby_Red0

Xanadeus
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Ruby_Red0 said :
Xanadeus said :
PrblyMyFault said :
How about not charging players to play a game that they have already paid to play?


I do not understand how this comment applies to my post or what you mean?


Of course you dont understand, since you dont understand the tax to begin with. Dont feel bad. You are not alone in that.

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I am not sure you fully understand the game either. You made some comments that are far from accurate.

This game is completely free for anyone that chooses to play for free.

All games suck up time and in fact time/health are the most valuable assets any person has in life so in that sense, none of us should be spending time playing a game, especially a grind game.

Why are you concerned what people want to pay for useless items. How does that affect you? These are status items like owning a fine piece of art or some piece of historical artifact in real life.

My biggest complaint about Runescape is the developers have a history of catering to the whiners. This game has become, in my opinion, more and more one dimensional. People are either grinding toward completion or doing the same boss over and over and over and over and for what reason?

What made this game a big hit in the early 2000s was it was a sandbox where there were many different ways to play the game, risk, excitement, etc.

Jagex continually takes the excitement out of the game because of whiners that can't handle a little excitement. So now it's become a standard boring grind solo oriented game where the game directs you on what to do rather than your personality and imagination.

11-Feb-2023 16:40:37

Ruby_Red0
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Xanadeus said :
Ruby_Red0 said :
Xanadeus said :
PrblyMyFault said :
How about not charging players to play a game that they have already paid to play?


I do not understand how this comment applies to my post or what you mean?


Of course you dont understand, since you dont understand the tax to begin with. Dont feel bad. You are not alone in that.

[/quote]

I am not sure you fully understand the game either. You made some comments that are far from accurate.

This game is completely free for anyone that chooses to play for free.

All games suck up time and in fact time/health are the most valuable assets any person has in life so in that sense, none of us should be spending time playing a game, especially a grind game.

Why are you concerned what people want to pay for useless items. How does that affect you? These are status items like owning a fine piece of art or some piece of historical artifact in real life.

My biggest complaint about Runescape is the developers have a history of catering to the whiners. This game has become, in my opinion, more and more one dimensional. People are either grinding toward completion or doing the same boss over and over and over and over and for what reason?

What made this game a big hit in the early 2000s was it was a sandbox where there were many different ways to play the game, risk, excitement, etc.

Jagex continually takes the excitement out of the game because of whiners that can't handle a little excitement. So now it's become a standard boring grind solo oriented game where the game directs you on what to do rather than your personality and imagination.[/quote]

Oh my bad. I didnt realize you lied and now want to claim you have all the answers. Fine then. "Help me understand the tax. No wait! Its you that I dont think understands!"

Okay man. Carry on. Teach us.
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11-Feb-2023 21:12:46

Xanadeus
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I lied? Why accuse me of lying? What did I lie about?

I played no life in the early 2000s so understood the game quite well then and I loved the game until Jagex started making changes to appease the minority of complainers. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I am still very impressed with the details in this game and I respect and appreciate Jagex because I do think they are fair and work hard and try to please people (mistake), but I am struggling to find enjoyment in the game anymore. I think I play due to a nostalgic attachment rather than the game actually just being good in the current state.

To me, as I said, the game is now way too soft, too much of a grind (too easy of a grind but still grind directed) and way too one dimensional that forces everyone down the same funneled path.

The majority of the players I have met upon returning are working on completion or just do the same boss over and over.

May I ask what you do in the game and your goals?

I much prefer a game with challenges, risks, excitement and more of a sandbox rather than, do this, then do this then do this or do the same boss over and over and try to beat your best time.

To me the human aspects of this game are more and more removed.

I will never understand the concept of making everything easier. So next people want Jagex to make it so people with bad luck get better odds. What? That's the whole idea of randomization.

This is moving to a game where every item should just be free on the GE and you go get whatever you want to play with. Hmmm... that sounds fun.

12-Feb-2023 13:43:13

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