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Ghosttalon
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My initial reaction to much of what you're suggesting is that these would take "mob-griefing" to a whole 'nother level, will make the wilderness even more annoying, and put any content out there even more out of reach than it is currently to lower levels. It would become even more dead. To make these feasible, I think more would have to be done to match pop-up mob to the player's level and offer some pretty darn good rewards for those that choose to stop, fight, and manage to defeat these dangers. There is some good potential for some one-off type PvM encounters especially if reward for the risk is worth it.
Question (keeping in mind I've been back in game for only a few days): Under what circumstances would you want to intentionally add to or maintain 'threat'?
Mmm... I forgot to mention that I also think that the current system of loosing ambushes on the player with mobs they can't even fight back against is silly and needs to be reworked to actually match the player's capabilities. Of course players are just going to run away and not bother fighting back when half the time they can't fight back. I suppose they probably built this update with end-game players in mind. Same could be said for a lot of things these days
. Not that I am against endgame updates. It's just not really useful for attracting new players.
But anyways, to answer your question, the whole Threat system is supposed to be risk v.s. reward. Higher threat means faster kills and better loot, as far as I understand it. So losing all our threat when we teleport is kind of problematic. Of course we should lose it if we leave the Wilderness, but otherwise there should be a better way to get around while maintaining it.
My initial reaction to much of what you're suggesting is that these would take "mob-griefing" to a whole 'nother level, will make the wilderness even more annoying, and put any content out there even more out of reach than it is currently to lower levels. It would become even more dead. To make these feasible, I think more would have to be done to match pop-up mob to the player's level and offer some pretty darn good rewards for those that choose to stop, fight, and manage to defeat these dangers. There is some good potential for some one-off type PvM encounters especially if reward for the risk is worth it.
Question (keeping in mind I've been back in game for only a few days): Under what circumstances would you want to intentionally add to or maintain 'threat'?
Mmm... I forgot to mention that I also think that the current system of loosing ambushes on the player with mobs they can't even fight back against is silly and needs to be reworked to actually match the player's capabilities. Of course players are just going to run away and not bother fighting back when half the time they can't fight back. I suppose they probably built this update with end-game players in mind. Same could be said for a lot of things these days
. Not that I am against endgame updates. It's just not really useful for attracting new players.
But anyways, to answer your question, the whole Threat system is supposed to be risk v.s. reward. Higher threat means faster kills and better loot, as far as I understand it. So losing all our threat when we teleport is kind of problematic. Of course we should lose it if we leave the Wilderness, but otherwise there should be a better way to get around while maintaining it.
05-Oct-2022 00:22:58
Sylvanheart
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Mmm... I forgot to mention that I also think that the current system of loosing ambushes on the player with mobs they can't even fight back against is silly and needs to be reworked to actually match the player's capabilities. Of course players are just going to run away and not bother fighting back when half the time they can't fight back. I suppose they probably built this update with end-game players in mind. Same could be said for a lot of things these days
. Not that I am against endgame updates. It's just not really useful for attracting new players.
But anyways, to answer your question, the whole Threat system is supposed to be risk v.s. reward. Higher threat means faster kills and better loot, as far as I understand it. So losing all our threat when we teleport is kind of problematic. Of course we should lose it if we leave the Wilderness, but otherwise there should be a better way to get around while maintaining it.
I mean to be fair - you shouldn't get a couple of goblins spawn on you, just because you entered the wilderness without any combat capabilties, since this would punish players for levelling their stats again. There is nothing wrong in running if you're not able to fight.
What they can do is making those spawns based on where you're in the wilderness - southern wilderness was basically untouched with the rework, so it could be made into a place more appealing for medium levelled players - and even f2p ones, since they for instance lost their only location with fire giants following that update. But that doesn't imply, that every location should be cb3 friendly - even when you access it easily. Since they expect you to have protection prayers available, base 40 stats wouldn't be unreasonable.
It's almost like the welcome bear from world of warcraft, which just will maul you for going into places you're not supposed to be in yet.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Welcome_Bear Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention
Mmm... I forgot to mention that I also think that the current system of loosing ambushes on the player with mobs they can't even fight back against is silly and needs to be reworked to actually match the player's capabilities. Of course players are just going to run away and not bother fighting back when half the time they can't fight back. I suppose they probably built this update with end-game players in mind. Same could be said for a lot of things these days
. Not that I am against endgame updates. It's just not really useful for attracting new players.
But anyways, to answer your question, the whole Threat system is supposed to be risk v.s. reward. Higher threat means faster kills and better loot, as far as I understand it. So losing all our threat when we teleport is kind of problematic. Of course we should lose it if we leave the Wilderness, but otherwise there should be a better way to get around while maintaining it.
I mean to be fair - you shouldn't get a couple of goblins spawn on you, just because you entered the wilderness without any combat capabilties, since this would punish players for levelling their stats again. There is nothing wrong in running if you're not able to fight.
What they can do is making those spawns based on where you're in the wilderness - southern wilderness was basically untouched with the rework, so it could be made into a place more appealing for medium levelled players - and even f2p ones, since they for instance lost their only location with fire giants following that update. But that doesn't imply, that every location should be cb3 friendly - even when you access it easily. Since they expect you to have protection prayers available, base 40 stats wouldn't be unreasonable.
It's almost like the welcome bear from world of warcraft, which just will maul you for going into places you're not supposed to be in yet.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Welcome_Bear Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention
05-Oct-2022 05:45:16 - Last edited on 05-Oct-2022 06:09:12 by Rikornak
I like the idea of an out-of-combat teleport from anywhere in the wilderness - perhaps to make it a little more risky, have it take longer to go through the teleport animation the deeper you are in the wilderness? Of course, achievements could be used to speed this up.
If Jagex were to add in an instantaneous wildy to wildy teleort, I like the idea of mobs following you throuhg the teleport, unless you were to teleblock them first in which case you would be able to escape. Is there an aoe teleblock? If not, I think there should be one
Ds Fads - why don't you create your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one? I'm not going to comment on your idea beyond that statement until you do... Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
Do you think I should get off the tracks?
If Jagex were to add in an instantaneous wildy to wildy teleort, I like the idea of mobs following you throuhg the teleport, unless you were to teleblock them first in which case you would be able to escape. Is there an aoe teleblock? If not, I think there should be one
Ds Fads - why don't you create your own thread instead of trying to hijack this one? I'm not going to comment on your idea beyond that statement until you do... Things may be looking down now, but I see a light at the end of the tunnel;
Do you think I should get off the tracks?
25-Oct-2022 02:35:46
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