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Tuffty
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Killashandra said :
By the way, 90 armour is beyond me, won't be able to kill the GWD2 bosses!

Goodbye, quest cape, I thought we'd meet again but it seems not!

I thought the same. Never been to Godwars 2 and never killed anything there.

All is not lost. I'm a total combat noob when it comes to fighting. If I can do it then you can for sure. The bosses are easy with Overlords and good food. I did them so you can. It's a matter of practice. Yes first boss I died about 5-6 times.

Helwyr was where I died. Rest were easy with the right prayer on.

Try it at least. You may like it.

Also moved the thread over to a better suited section now seeing as it's not a Recent Game Update.

Good luck.
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03-Oct-2023 12:19:47

Mini JIT
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@ Horsechaser + Mausey. Red skull account so I cannot die and also not good at bossing but have done over 100 kills and sign of life only kicked in once.

Only using revo for most of it but using defence set up so kills take 3.5 mins, it's slow compared to under 1 min that others are doing but totally safe.

Living death, skeleton, ghost, soul sap, touch of death, debilitate and reflect just them 7. Manual cast of volley of souls and special attack. If there are loads of monsters near me then I use blood siphon to heal, then threads of fate with volley to kill them off.

For armour I use 2-piece cryptbloom and 2-piece death warden and death touch bracelet on hands. Can use 4-piece death warden but try keep the bracelet as reflect does a lot of damage. leviathan ring for more defence and salve ammy. Rune pouch with blood, soul and astrals. Book of death in pocket slot but you can use any as I don't have any of the new fancy ones.

Hellhound will take 20% of any damage to you so use that not a yak full of food, 20% sounds low but it works and cast prism of restoration if its health get too low (or use its scrolls but costly) and use aegis aura for another 10% dr (and free resets this week)

Inventory I take all 4 new runes and ecto, excalibur, prayer stone, overload, replenishment and prayer potions but don't really need both. 8 sara flasks, 7 soups or any food you want and vulnerability bombs help slightly.

Sorrow and soul split the whole fight apart from when you see soul bar filled with 5 then pray deflect necro then back to ss. Cast darkness if you want as it protects from his minions, but his attacks will always hit. Cast mark of death on him at the start (or any part) of the fight so he dies when there is still 30k health on him.

Always stand about 3-5 tiles away from him, if too close he hits you with scythe and more than 6 he will surge away and summon 2 monsters every time. For ghost walls just take 2 steps back then come back.

03-Oct-2023 13:53:37

Mini JIT
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At 200k hp he jumps onto the wall, if you not ready then run to the back wall (door you came in) as he cannot hit you there. Heal up, summon your monsters and surge forward. Once you get to him you might find it better to turn run off and walk, I go clockwise in a rectangle shape about 6 tiles long and 4 wide (if that makes sense). Do not run around like crazy, you can see the shadow where the attacks will land so do not panic. Surge to the other side of his wall if you mess up.

At this point you can click and run as your monsters will also damage him but I manual cast the basic, soul sap and touch of death. Cast volley of souls when you have 2 or 3 and use the special attack, that has 30 second cd but can hit 30K.

Finger of death is also a good ability, but I prefer the special attack to use up the necrosis stacks. I don't use death skulls as it uses a lot of adrenalin and like I said I wanted a defensive set up that's safe from death.

Another trick when starting out is taking some memory shards if you have any and making portent of restoration when you are out of combat as they are like a stackable food. I tend to take 2 premade ones in every kill anyway in case I mess up.

Good kill I can get away with using 2 sara and 2 foods but normally its 4 and 4.

For perks use the best you have but try and add undead slayer. Relics I use fury of the small, conservation of energy and persistent rage but you can swap and change to whatever you prefer.

Thats my guide, hope it helps.

03-Oct-2023 14:39:59

Horsechaser
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@Minijit:

Some great suggestions in your guide. a few things I didnt know like being able to surge to the entrance during last phase to avoid being hit. That would give time for persistent rage to build adrenaline to full. Also the use of a couple pieces of cryptbloom to take advantage of animat=e dead spell to mitigate damage. Ive already been using a hellhound with prism of restoration.

As I mentioned above, I can consistently get to the last phase with most of my food and brews. Its the running around and trying to attack at same time on last phase that kills me nearly every time. Ive gotten close to getting him dieing when he is nearly at 50k lp so with the additional defensive setup I might be able to make it. Also was not aware that the necrotic stacks could increase damage of the special attack so that should help a great deal.

Personally, I still think he does way too much damage with the necrotic explosions on the last phase and that its a bit unbalanced but thats my take on it. I doubt that it will be changed any so Ill have to find a way to avoid the damage. The real problem is there are so many clicks required to get set up for the last phase ( summon minions, reflect, debilitate, touch of death...etc etc, that there just isnt a lot of time to get it all done before he is wrecking you with the necrotic explosions and then having to run around at the same time there just isnt any margin for error.

Anyway, perhaps your defensive setup will work better for me as I should be able to last a bit longer with the reduced damage.

03-Oct-2023 21:12:44

Smasherley
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I think the hardest part of Rasial really is the last bit. Having to run and hit and eat all at the same time is a massive pet hate of mine... With Legiones this is minor but when it's 200,000 xp of damage it's a little too much to find enjoyable.

One of the things I really hate personally is this "you are injured and cannot use prayers" ballony.. It really peeves me off, why do we even have this crap in the game?

This game has all its buffs and abilities and then content seems to be created in avoidance of previous releases. I see it all the time, whether it be venomblood not working in certain instances, or prayers turning themselves off. This is poor development in my opinion and it really gets my goat.

03-Oct-2023 22:38:25

Mini JIT
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Just to add, remember you only have a 6-tile attack range so try stay in that when he is on the wall. If you move too far your next attack will auto drag you into the incoming attack. Thats what I meant by saying walk/run in a 6x4 rectangle/ circle. He will still hit you but it's more of a controlled hit.

Ps. My set-up does use a lot of runes, but I make my own so not a problem. If you are buying, then it might be costly. 120 cape on stand helps slightly. With powerburst you can make over 3k spirit runes every 2 runs.

04-Oct-2023 18:09:39

W I Cked
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I had the same issue i couldnt kill him and whe i got the last phase all my food was gone but then i found a solution for it and almost got 250 kills now with 1 death (lag) on him with 2 min kills average.

With Necromancy you have to learn manual fighting especialy for Rasial, know when to freedom/resonance/debilatie/devotion/aticapation/reflect so you dont take alot of damage.

But the most important thing is your rotation, when you get enouch stacks when to use finger of death / volley of souls and Death Skull (Get the zuk cape it will be a life changer)

My revo bar what works for me is having Necromancy attack - touch of doutch - soul sap - conjure skeleton warrior on Revo so you always get adren and stacks for the attacks. With this revo bar you just have to use death skulls/finger of death and volley of souls on the right time while using the defence ability like resonance and debilatie (on his biggest attack it will heal you)

When you get inside with 100% adren i use Split Soul > Death Skulls > Invoke Death> Adren 100% Living death > at 6 stacks i use finger of death and at 5 stacks i use volley of souls. Conjure all minions and use the skeleton ability and ghost spell when they are summoned before the fight.

I use Aegis Aura for 10% damage reduction and hellhound for 20% damage income reduction so i have a chill fight.

I play runescape for 15 years and always used revo but with necromancy i learned manual and its very fun gameplay because you know when to do what spell. What i did i learned this all on vindicta so you know when to use your abilitys on what time for the most effective use. Like Split Soul ( Extra damage) is great when you use it with Death Skulls > 2x Finger of death (Full stacks) and Volley of stacks. Thats 100-200K damage in just 4 attacks as example when to use it on last phase.

After 15 years i can say Necromancy is the best thing what ever happend in Runescape and i finaly became a good PVMER

04-Oct-2023 20:26:05 - Last edited on 04-Oct-2023 20:29:00 by W I Cked

Horsechaser
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Thanks MiniJit

I used your setup with a couple minor tweaks and have had good success getting through last phase finally. The reduced damage with the defensive setup was a game changer for me

I am up to 15 post quest kills now, and and getting through without signing so that should help a lot when the current free death/instant sign reset event is over.

One thing I might mention: You stated that you could run to the entrance to get ready and he wouldnt be able to hit you there. I tried that on my first attempt with the defensive setup and was wrecked by necro explosions, so it appears that he can still hit you with those at the entrance so that strategy hasnt worked too well for me.

In any case, at least I have made some progress, but so far the drops really stink. One would think that a boss that requires so many resources jagex could do better on drops, but meh. So sick of stone spirits, and I already have a ton of mementos from leveling necro with rituals, so I dont know what logic is behind the crappy drops. Seems to me the game is already so flooded with stone spirits as to make them virtually worthless.

Anyway, your defensive setup has worked well for me so far so a tip of the hat to you!

04-Oct-2023 20:44:17

Mini JIT
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I had not used the entrance trick for a while so tested it in case it was changed but no it still worked for me. He could not reach me. Use one of the defence abilities then surge forward when ready. Once you get the hang of it you don't really need the safe spot.

@W I Cked, I got zuk cape on main after many deaths and yes, it's nice but too scared to try and get it on HCIM. Slight lag on pizza phase and its instant death bypassing sign of life.

My method for Rasial was meant to be a safe way for people finding it hard and most of it is using 1 bar and revo.

05-Oct-2023 00:53:57

Mausey
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I did as suggested and still no luck. I can get him on the wall and I'm dead. Those attacks hit and I can't move, can't surge away and can't eat. I tried 7 or 8 times last evening and it was pretty much the same every single time. I can click eat and maybe 1 out of 5 will I actually eat anything. I'm getting sick and tired of getting dead with a pack of food left. :(

I need a guide for old ladies with a crap connection and slow reflexes. :D

06-Oct-2023 23:19:54

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