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Destruction said :
Spam-protection as in don't post 20 times in a row so you can win in 2 minutes. We saw this balance when you and other person started couting today. It got to -25 including all 3 of us against in couple of minutes which is wrong. When we count 1 by 1 that goes extremely slowly, nowhere near close to those numbers plus you only focused on one thread, we focused on like 20 in same time.


Unless I am misunderstanding what you're saying, this is too lenient. There has not been anyone who has posted 20 times consecutively. It seems to me that players were challenged when F-Mods were more actively counting in that short amount of time you describe. But no one has spammed the thread with 20 simultaneous posts, ever.

Destruction said :
Half-true as players don't really outnumber fmod team when you think about it.


They do actually. If you were to revisit v32 of this thread, you will find that players have won SIX times throughout the thread. F-Mods did not win a single time on that thread. So I still don't see the argument where the -3 reduction should be lower... if anything it should be higher. You are welcome to check the thread and look over it. There might be some interesting comments on that thread.

Destruction said :
''Simple haha moment'' is not valid as that is what got abused the most. If you can believe someone and if the person is legit then I guess it's fine but current situation is much different, unfortunately. It takes 0.5 seconds to completely ruin the high number and it was done on purpose many times like I've stated.


It was intended as a fun stipulation. However, from what I've seen on this thread and prior, there hasn't been an instance of abuse. Not sure where this was done on purpose as you claim, but I am open to changing this.
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09-Apr-2022 22:06:46 - Last edited on 09-Apr-2022 22:08:55 by Kathy

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Destruction said :
We saw this balance when you and other person started couting today. It got to -25 including all 3 of us against in couple of minutes which is wrong.

And that right there is my issue with the counting disparity. If a player and an FMod alternate posts for just a single page, then the FMods gain 10 points of advantage despite the fact that both sides contributed the same number of posts (5). For the record, it took us about 5 hours of uninterrupted posting to reach the 30s. It didn't even take an hour to undo that. And again, that was with both sides posting about evenly.

Destruction said :
Like I've said, I'd like to hear what Idiotest have to say on 00:00 and I'm not the most

Were I the thread creator, I would remove the resets as well. It is not a fun or exciting rule, and as it stands, it is used primarily by the "losing" side to force a sort of stalemate. In the cases where double posts and :00s have happened incidentally, it's been more of a nuisance than the "oops lol" that is advertised. And these incidental posts happen often enough such that they really shouldn't have such a significant impact on the game.

If we have to keep the rule, though, I would suggest the following alteration: If a player :00s or double posts, then the count decreases by 5. Likewise, if an FMod :00s or double posts, then the count increases by 5. In the event such posts would push the count past ±50, then it results in an automatic win for the relevant team. Still a nuisance, but no longer prone to abuse, and more in line with the "oops lol" mentality.

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10-Apr-2022 01:57:02 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2022 01:58:09 by Idiotest

Kathy
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Right, so here's something that I am considering doing for the next iteration:

- the double post rule is REMOVED in its entirety.

The :00 rule would be modified:

- the :00 rule will apply only to the team on the winning side
- the losing team would reduce/add by 10 if they post a :00

So an example of the :00 reset rule applying to the winning side:

P1: 1
P2: 2
P3: 3 (posts :00 time stamp) - this would reset the count to zero
P1: 1

Another example for the reduction/addition of 10 (if fmods are winning):

F1: -3
F2: -6
P1: -5 (posts :00 time stamp... effectively making the count 4 by adding 10 to the -6)

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The feedback received so far is good. However, I don't want this to go too off course. This is a possibility of what could happen for v34.

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10-Apr-2022 03:53:12 - Last edited on 10-Apr-2022 03:54:44 by Kathy

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Kathy said :
So an example of the :00 reset rule applying to the winning side:

P1: 1
P2: 2
P3: 3 (posts :00 time stamp) - this would reset the count to zero
P1: 1
Am I right in thinking it would set the count to -8, not 0? :O

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Kathy
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Corder said :
Am I right in thinking it would set the count to -8, not 0? :O

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In the above example, if it had been F-Mod who posted the :00, then it would be -8. However, because the players are winning, the :00 posted by a player would effectively reset the count to 0.

So to recap:

- If players are winning and one of them posts a :00 - the count is reset to 0

- If players are winning and a F-Mod posts a :00 - the count is reduced by 10. Inversely, if the F-Mods are winning and a player posts a :00, they get to ADD 10 (since fmods count the opposite direction)

Hope that makes sense. :)

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