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Some things are better off without change. Most people who make signatures on the forums are more familiar with ascii than unicode.
15-Aug-2010 16:16:00
Heh, those characters were *never* possible in ascii, so they would've been better off calling it unicode/utf8 in the first place
15-Aug-2010 16:18:49
Out of curiosity (stupid inactivity
), what action can be taken on the RSOF?
In any case, I suppose this will have to be my last post on the subject here if such dictatorship is to be accepted in modern day Britain.
They are not just "little symbols used to make art", as a quick search would show you, they are characters (I suppose in a way the little symbol bit is right
), which all have a code/number attached to them. (Something I should've made clear, is that the 0xwhatever was actually the computer form of a number...well human readable form of binary, converted at the compiler, its kinda complicated...). Due to one bit only being able to hold so much infomation, ASCII was very limited (with the numbers only going up to 127 on certain forms of datatypes. 128-255 was only for extended sets which were needed in France, Germany, etc. and they were a pain because if you had a different extended set you would just see lots of different rectangles...doh!
So they invented unicode which stored the same characters, and much more. When you on your Windows computers press alt+number, then you are typing in the unicode form of the character, not the ascii (if it was ascii then, like I appear to be reiterating, then the number would only be up to 128, not in the millions). Unicode and ASCII are vastly different things, the only similarity they have is they store characters, that's it.
One way you know they are different, is if whilst programming, you try splitting a unicode string, you'll find that each individual character is more than one codepoint, unlike is ASCII, making ASCII multitudes simpler to code with (and multitudes harder to draw with
)
Now if you really want to live in ignorance, and ignore the truth, then fine, I'll leave your thread. Although to be perfectly honest, this is not cluttering the thread, rather it is very on topic. Like I said, last post on the topic, unless you invite me to keep on answering any of your queries.
Good bye -- Xer_Man
), what action can be taken on the RSOF?
In any case, I suppose this will have to be my last post on the subject here if such dictatorship is to be accepted in modern day Britain.
They are not just "little symbols used to make art", as a quick search would show you, they are characters (I suppose in a way the little symbol bit is right
), which all have a code/number attached to them. (Something I should've made clear, is that the 0xwhatever was actually the computer form of a number...well human readable form of binary, converted at the compiler, its kinda complicated...). Due to one bit only being able to hold so much infomation, ASCII was very limited (with the numbers only going up to 127 on certain forms of datatypes. 128-255 was only for extended sets which were needed in France, Germany, etc. and they were a pain because if you had a different extended set you would just see lots of different rectangles...doh!
So they invented unicode which stored the same characters, and much more. When you on your Windows computers press alt+number, then you are typing in the unicode form of the character, not the ascii (if it was ascii then, like I appear to be reiterating, then the number would only be up to 128, not in the millions). Unicode and ASCII are vastly different things, the only similarity they have is they store characters, that's it.
One way you know they are different, is if whilst programming, you try splitting a unicode string, you'll find that each individual character is more than one codepoint, unlike is ASCII, making ASCII multitudes simpler to code with (and multitudes harder to draw with
)
Now if you really want to live in ignorance, and ignore the truth, then fine, I'll leave your thread. Although to be perfectly honest, this is not cluttering the thread, rather it is very on topic. Like I said, last post on the topic, unless you invite me to keep on answering any of your queries.
Good bye -- Xer_Man
15-Aug-2010 16:50:26
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