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Azi Demonica

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NotFishing,
The thread does not have any rules of that nature.

Over the past four pages, no one found a means to save themselves, and since multiple users have been doing mostly fleeing, I felt obligated to save them, had permission to do so, so I did.
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wolfpack 888 said :
Sure Azi, help is always welcomed lol.

Indeed. Yes, you can control humans if you wish, so long as they are your introduction.

I don't presume a right when I was allowed to save the characters.

No, I am not controlling the fight, I am only controlling what I introduce. If anyone wanted to fight, they would have done so already, not depict their characters fleeing. I did not force anyone to make their characters flee, Wolf did not force anyone to make their characters flee, after all. Yes, I am commencing whatever Wolf has planned, and it can be done.

20-Jan-2017 03:51:26 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 03:51:55 by Azi Demonica

George Rozas

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Did you ever think that we depict our characters fleeing because there is nothing else they could do?

None of us have characters who are used to fighting, or who are trained to fight, or have ever experienced being transported to another world where heavily armed knights want to kill them. Our characters are reacting in what is a realistic manner, whilee you are throwing everything but the kitchen sink into the mix and taking away any natural opportunity for the characters to get over things on their own terms.

Instead they're being saved by super werewolves that you made up on the spot, who could clearly have put a stop to the evil king and company without the Koray, thus invalidating the need for our characters to exist. What use will a few untrained teenagers be with their magic powers that will take months to get used to when super werewolves are in town?

The fleeing, shockingly enough, made sense. Everybody is fleeing because shit got weird really fast, and any normal person would be like 'fuck that' and want to get the hell out. Annie doesn't count.

What you're doing is taking too many liberties because Wolf is an easy-going GM. However, in doing the things that you are doing, you are taking away from the experience of other players who are finding your actions increasingly frustrating. You aren't just controlling your characters who have been approved and accepted (even if they're stetching things as it is), you're throwing out whoever you want to throw out and expecting us to roll with it.

We don't want to roll with it. I am Inferi.

20-Jan-2017 03:59:35

NotFishing

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Azi Demonica said :
I asked if I could do something, Wolf said yes, he did not say I could bring in my character to do something.

So in other words, he made a vague statement probably assuming you would know what he meant, and then you went ahead and took that as a go-ahead to do whatever you want, when it clearly wasn't. Okay, glad we're clear on that.

Azi Demonica said :
There is no army of super werewolves, a pack of wolves is often about 5-15 wolves, which is hardly an army.

That pack is significantly stronger and larger than anything the current characters have access to (excluding your characters, of course.)

Azi Demonica said :
This is a dishonest statement. Again, I will put what Wolf has said

To say that he gave the go ahead to do whatever you want is also dishonest.

Azi Demonica said :
No, Inferi, I am not jacking the thread and taking it in the direction I want

You kind of are. Both of your characters are vastly different and way more powerful than everyone else, and you have made yourself the center of attention in both of the scenes you're involved in.

Azi Demonica said :
The thread does not have any rules of that nature.

Because those rules have been basic roleplaying etiquette for years now. Don't powerplay, don't derail the thread, post a bio before you intro a character, and ask the thread owner before you do anything over the top and crazy. You did not specifically allude to what you were going to do when you asked to help.

I specifically remember having a similar conversation with you back when you joined Into the Fire for the first time. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

20-Jan-2017 04:07:45 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:13:45 by NotFishing

NotFishing

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Azi Demonica said :
Over the past four pages, no one found a means to save themselves, and since multiple users have been doing mostly fleeing, I felt obligated to save them, had permission to do so, so I did.

So because the situation wasn't immediately resolved within two or three posts per roleplayer (because that's really all that anyone was given), you immediately jump in and completely change the situation?

Also the fact that your entire argument is based off of one vague sentence that can be interpreted in many different ways shows how flimsy and poorly justified it is. You aren't putting forth a logical argument. You are presenting excuses and technicalities.

Azi Demonica said :
No, I am not controlling the fight, I am only controlling what I introduce.

You have brought in a powerful new type of enemy with a numerical advantage that is either equal to or superior to the opposing force. You pretty much are controlling the fight at this point, because you have made yourself the most powerful participant. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

20-Jan-2017 04:12:35 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:22:05 by NotFishing

Westenev

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"Ohmaigod, I'm like, feeling so bored today. Lets alleviate that by running over an armed cosplayer. But why stop there? Two, Three... WHY NOT ALL THE COSPLAYERS, HAHA."

I'm not sure what kind of sociopath you think Alisha is, Azi, but she can't comply with your post! Gary is scurrying about out of notice doing whatever (and hasn't done a lot to stand out besides existing comparatively), and she's kind of in the middle of a panic attack over just squashing a guy.

In short, she thinks she ran over an asshole, not a knight from the butt end of another world.

Azi Demonica said :
Over the past four pages, no one found a means to save themselves, and since multiple users have been doing mostly fleeing, I felt obligated to save them, had permission to do so, so I did.

You're not really obligated to save anyone, and if anyone is saved, it should be done by either worfing the enemy or creating a situation where they can be defeated by current means. Turning yourself into the sole fighter of a party just turns your characters into the main 'mons, and frankly, will cause our characters to begin to rely on you.

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20-Jan-2017 04:26:08 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:36:32 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Thing is, I was actually going to introduce a badass normal into the world.

A hunter/thief whose younger brother was killed for being a Koray, and his parents were killed for protecting him. At only sixteen years of age, he fled to a city, had to resort to some unscrupulous means to survive (gang activity.) Learning to fight with daggers and swords in back-alleys, how to sneak around and pick locks, became a better shot with his hunting bow, etc. etc. Pulling himself up from nothing to become a skilled fighter, and eventually leaving his criminal past behind to seek his fortune through more legitimate means.

He would be able to stand superior to the protagonists as they are now, simply because they have no fighting skills and only the tiniest bit of magic, but eventually they would become equal to him, and eventually surpass him. But until then he would act as their protector and guide, remembering what happened to his family seventeen years ago.

But what's the point in being a badass unpowered warrior or a young Koray struggling to develop their powers, when you can be an even more badass warrior who has also had years to study and practice their powers? Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

20-Jan-2017 04:38:46 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:40:43 by NotFishing

Azi Demonica

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George,
Then why did you choose to role-play as such a character?

No, my super werewolves cannot defeat the king on their own, as they cannot wield weapons in their monster form. Having no means to protect themselves means it'd be easy to cut their legs off or attack their head directly.

Annie does count, she is as important a user as anyone else.

I am only controlling my own characters, I am not throwing out anyone, I referenced everyone else in their areas. No, I am not expecting you to roll with it, you don't have to if you don't want to.

Doesn't bother me.

NotFishing,
OK, we're clear on that then.

The pack is indeed larger and stronger than the other users' characters. They have to be to save them.

No one said that, and what I did is not dishonest.

No, I am not jacking the thread, all users are allowed to do whatever they want. Of course my characters are different, I see no reason to mimic or recreate the same thing. I don't consider myself the centre of attention due to how unpopular my characters are, you are free to dismiss what I have done.

I had permission, and more than once, so I felt I had to be obligated to get something big done as quickly as possible. I did not specifically allude what I would do because users here have been complaining a lot lately, so I wanted to excel and surprise them, but I failed, as I often do.

Yes, when I started Into the Fire, that was the first time I began role-playing, so I made mistakes, and did not have permission, but I did edit out my mistakes and got better.

20-Jan-2017 04:40:59

Azi Demonica

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NotFishing,
Yes, since users were unable to resolve the situation, I felt obligated, and had permission, to laser beam through it.

The facts are that I had permission, I am loyal, and I am willing to correct what I failed in; my justification is simple, in that, once again, I had permission to save the characters, and I did so. My excuses are based on facts.

Doesn't matter if you view my super werewolves as powerful and numerous, Wolf can simply depict his knights slaughtering them, which is basically what I am trying to encourage. Knights on horseback are superior against an animalistic being.

West,
I did not think Alisha was sociopathic, I attempted to make a comical scene. Sorry about that, I thought you meant to depict Alisha as driving over the Obsidian Knight and then the others, I will fix that immediately.

What I had in mind, was that the Obsidian Knights start a fire, and the smoke and flames scare away the werewolves, but your ideas work too, they are reasonable.

Indeed, I am not obligated to save anyone, and my indebtedness was misplaced.

Not,
Your hunter-thief character sounds like a good idea, it would fit both worlds.

20-Jan-2017 04:41:10 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:41:57 by Azi Demonica

NotFishing

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Azi Demonica said :
George,
Then why did you choose to role-play as such a character?

HE CHOSE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS THE TYPE OF CHARACTER WE WERE ALL TOLD TO PLAY AS

I'm going to bed. I'll respond to the rest in the morning. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

20-Jan-2017 04:42:50

Westenev

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NotFishing said :
But what's the point in being a badass unpowered warrior or a young Koray struggling to develop their powers, when you can be an even more badass warrior who has also had years to study and practice their powers?

It would be much easier to develop a relationship with a character if you were a handsome rogue around the same age - and they would be the token normal member, who frankly would be the only person who's ideas would have any weight when it comes to mediation with the locals. But. More importantly, Romance is the most important element of any story.

Who knows, if you're lucky you might just snag yourself an Inferi.

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20-Jan-2017 04:46:37 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2017 04:49:19 by Westenev

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