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Glavikinn
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BrunoNutto said :
Jagex recently abandoned support for ChromeOS. For whatever reason it seems they have no interest in diversifying their support right now, indeed the opposite seems to be true. Surprising perhaps when the Windows 11 forced change is a couple of years away.

They would probably have to hire some new people too if they changed course. I guess when money is the bottom line it's going to take them a lot of convincing. Perhaps if other gaming companies jump on board and Jagex see it's a success they might follow along eventually.

Hopefully it won't be too late, but yeah I believe windows 11 will force people to diversify it's generally considered a terrible move by Microsoft people are not happy with the direction it's headed and with what has come out about Win 12 it doesn't look to be changing. of course if it gets too bad Microsoft will likely abandon the reasons they're losing business, since Mac is far too greedy with their products that'll leave Linux and ChromeOS open to gain more users. it's already happening, I am one of them, but for the typical user installing their own OS is still a bit difficult. I really don't want or care if people switch to Linux, with the majority comes the majority of problems associated with the title I just want us to be fairly represented rather than just appealing to the common denominator and trying to get that sweet Macintosh clout. It's all about money, I get it, it's a company after all. However when you provide a service it's best not to alienate your customers. many companies have fallen because of Ego, and Jagex has nearly died before by not listening, this likely won't be the downfall but rather just another feather on the camels back. It would make more sense to build up PR by doing more things for their users and gain new customers in the process rather than alienate the ones you have one by one until there's no people left playing. The Linuxian Sage has spoken.

16-Jul-2023 18:25:41

Espionage724
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Make some fresh RS accounts, buy membership, and then refund it shortly after on the basis of the game not working on Linux. If enough of that happened, there would be Linux support real quick.

In-lieu of that, if the few Linux players with existing accounts refunded, I'm sure that would put Linux support on some kind of list at least. Jagex I'm sure would love to do less work and just forget about Linux users, until they lose money over it. And I'm sure they especially love people playing investor and paying a subscription and not even connecting to the game!

I paid for Premier and I can't refund it (avoid the red Key bank in the US), or I would have already. For now so long as I can use native Linux RS clients and run Jagex Launcher for the 20 seconds I need it through Wine, I guess that's tolerable. If I had to use Proton, Flatpak, Lutris, or any of the overkill stuff others are doing for some reason on Linux, that'd be a hard no for me; I use Linux to avoid that kind of obfuscation :p

I've changed my stance; desktop Linux sucks in 2023 and I'm not sure why people tolerate it instead of WSL. Turns out Microsoft knows what they're doing :P

17-Jul-2023 14:12:38 - Last edited on 07-Aug-2023 03:17:23 by Espionage724

Glavikinn
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I've been going over the announcement and reading up on it a bit. The oldschool team at least seems open to making a Linux version, they answered the question leaving it open for the possibility of Linux support in the future, though I can't say for sure. However on the main threads Jagex seems perfectly content with leaving the Linux community to fend for themselves. Many companies take this approach it's definitely easier on them and cost them nothing, but I think it's the "higher up's" that are the reason that there will be none. and to be honest a lot of this is just a band-aid fix anyways.

They need entirely new content, a new game, loosely based on Runescape but entirely built from the ground up with better graphics. However I think that's a huge gamble that they might not be profitable enough to make, and unless someone has already done all the work and publishes with Jagex, or they get community feedback every step of the way to ensure that it'll appeal to the current fan base. I don't see it happening.

I still think it'd be cheap to build a Linux executable. So many smaller companies do it, despite having a much much smaller budget. My biggest concern is that of my accounts, and my ability to play without stuttering, frame drops or disconnecting. There may never be an issue in which case great no big deal, but in the off chance I'm right and people do get banned or hacked. that's a very painful pill to swallow and something that could've been avoided.

I was furious when I started this post, but as I looked into things more, and thought about it all, I'm still pretty irritated; but I see why. Linux has never really had support from anyone we build something if we don't have it, and we make the most with what we have if we can't, and this is just another example, sadly. But even with jumping through hoops to do basic things I still love it and the spirit of it, because it's the freedom to go against the grain and we're better for it. The Linuxian Sage has spoken.

17-Jul-2023 22:11:50 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2023 22:23:07 by Glavikinn

Espionage724
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If Jagex Launcher is using WebView2 (it looks like the installer uses it?) it's not likely coming to Linux until that itself supports it: https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/645

Although there's a macOS specific ticket too even with the JL supporting macOS, so maybe JL isn't WebView2, or maybe only uses that for Windows? https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/WebView2Feedback/issues/1314

I thought JL was Electron originally but apparently that, CEF, and Webview in this context are all Chromium and can use its launch-flags seemingly to varying degrees. Fun stuff :p

I have the C++ client running perfectly:

https://wiki.realmofespionage.xyz/games:wine:old_school_runescape_jagex_launcher_c

23-Jul-2023 14:23:34 - Last edited on 23-Jul-2023 14:52:29 by Espionage724

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