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Thoggart
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Lord Killama said :
Why don't we put a poll together to just finally add a new skill?? Put dungeoneering back, summoning, anything. Duo slayer would be awesome again like the old times. A new skill would bring so much more joy into this game more.

Of course a new skill would be great. Duo Slayer sounds really cool as well. This is just the wrong place to ask imo, QoL team most likely cannot set in motion a new skill. Duo Slayer would probably be the most possible?

20-Oct-2022 07:07:59

Holoubek
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Can we please add question about possibility to store 6 remaining castle wars rewards items which we cant at the moment? Its saradomin and zamorak banner, hood and cape. Its similar QoL update as storing mining gloves.

It makes no sence that we cant store these 6 items, so can you please consider that ?

20-Oct-2022 20:47:39

Tevatron
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Poll Question #9:
Should Charlie the Tramp's Beginner Clue steps allow the player to give him items they’ve prepared in advance, instead of forcing them to fish and cook new ones?

First, it is unclear to me if the player will still have to prepare the item themselves or if they can use a bought/traded item. Assuming that the game will not check if the player actually produced the item...

I've engaged with this content quite a bit (top 3k for beginners) and I agree that Charlie steps are annoying and have room for improvement. However, the proposed change is not in the spirit of why Charlie steps exist in the first place.

I thought Charlie steps were originally intended to expose low level players to the clue step style given by Sherlock. Like for Sherlock, players should be required to make the product themselves by meeting the skill level requirements while holding the clue in their inventory.

At the same time, I think there are ways to improve beginner clue scrolls because it is my experience that beginners can take longer than easies or mediums to complete and offer far less rewards for it. If the goal is to reduce average time to complete beginners while still preserving the spirit of a clue, here are some ideas. To be clear, I'm not suggesting to use all the ideas.

Idea A: Model Charlie steps off of Falo instead of Sherlock. This would preserve Charlie steps as being a preview to higher level content while allowing players to quickly grab items from the bank to show. The tasks would need to be rewritten to ask for low level items (including untradeables obtained from engaging with low level content) instead of skilling items.

Idea B: Make Charlie steps a guaranteed final step.

Idea C: Change the weights for the number of steps from 10/45/45 to around 25/50/25.

Idea D: Prevent Charlie steps from being the 2nd or 3rd step.

Idea E: Remove the possibility of a 3rd step, making the weights somewhere between 10/90 and 25/75.

21-Oct-2022 23:38:42

Draco Burnz
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Thoggart said :


-Whether or not the reason that they couldn't experience it being due to their own limitations, the fact of the matter is that Jagex supports the playstyle and wants it in the game. Yet a large piece of content is not available to the endorsed playstyle due not necessarily to the limitations, but rather to a detail that can be arbitrarily changed


Just because jagex allows ppl to make pures doesnt mean they "support" them.

I mean in the end a good number of them become members thus only provide more profits for jagex.

So why wouldnt they allow ppl to make pures at that point?

If jagex truly wanted to support the mode, they make it official already yet they havent.

Also yes, being unable to access content is due to personal limitations as the mode isnt official thus all "rules" or w/e on the acc are made up by the acc holder. Not jagex.

Just because something can be changed doesnt mean it should .
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22-Oct-2022 17:27:24

Draco Burnz
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As You Bleed said :


You don't know what you're talking about then. Pures can literally access every piece of content besides some achievement diaries and quests. Pures can do the inferno, do every Raid, solo every GWD boss. So what is your point really? You've never had a pure so you have no right to speak on the subject.

You dont know what type of alts i have so dont speak like you do.

My point is that if ppl really want to make such a restrictive acc, then they should be ready to handle said restrictions.

Like you just said, pures cant access some things in the game yet here we are wanting pures to be able to access something they cant. Sounds very ironic if you ask me.

Thus if anyone doesnt know what they're talking about its you.
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22-Oct-2022 17:31:55

proact
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Thank you for another update - regarding the Pure to Ape Atoll update I have some concerns about how this will negatively effect existing accounts.

Any 34 def build (nature spirit+mm1&2) or 42 build is now in a position where they could have had a MUCH better account if they created after this update.

- The 34 def build could have instead unlocked MM2+Heros+Sins of the Father + Fremennik Exiles whilst maintaining a preferable 30def (Masori+inq is making this more popular)

-The 42 def build could have remained at a cleaner 40 def saving cb lvls

-Berserker builds would also be able to unlock even more content

SOLUTIONS

- Optional MM1 Exp rollback. Clearly this could be abused as the exp given from MM1 could have given the requirements to unlock other content on a character, so any rollback would need a check for this.

-Do not release the update. Without a rollback, this update will ruin many established accounts for the small benefit of many who have self imposed these restrictions.

I would like for pures to be able to return to the Atoll if they like, but NOT at the cost of so many other accounts.

Thank you for reading

T

23-Oct-2022 02:49:22

Draco Burnz
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proact said :


- Optional MM1 Exp rollback. Clearly this could be abused as the exp given from MM1 could have given the requirements to unlock other content on a character, so any rollback would need a check for this.

-Do not release the update. Without a rollback, this update will ruin many established accounts for the small benefit of many who have self imposed these restrictions.

I would like for pures to be able to return to the Atoll if they like, but NOT at the cost of so many other accounts.


Well jagex dont do any rollbacks as that could have other damaging effects.

So its clear that if ppl wanted to access this area, then they shouldnt have placed such a requirement on themselves in which they "cant".
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23-Oct-2022 12:48:34

Lord Killama
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Add a new skill, take the 4 you had, make a poll with them. Whichever two has the highest, kick the other two ideas out the window. Take the two highest and poll them against each other and see which one wins.

Hence, that will be our new skill! Come on guys, this isn't rocket science!

25-Oct-2022 16:32:58

Draco Burnz
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Lord Killama said :
Add a new skill, take the 4 you had, make a poll with them. Whichever two has the highest, kick the other two ideas out the window. Take the two highest and poll them against each other and see which one wins.

Hence, that will be our new skill! Come on guys, this isn't rocket science!

Yea id love a new skill as well, but sadly some ppl cbb to re-earn max cape thus are forcing jagex's hands so one never happens :@
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27-Oct-2022 01:37:22

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