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CapitalPain
Mar Member 2024

CapitalPain

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faceguard looks great and addition to helm. Quest is great. However the slayer cave is mehhh so many slayer caves give us a new med/high level monster with good drops wyvrms and drakes were shit.

Add something that makes runecrafting more bearable also as it includes rc exp. RC hant had an update/boost forever

28-Aug-2019 21:13:46

Reminiscon

Reminiscon

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Suggestion: Rebalance the Neitiznot Faceguard as the “Tribrid” overall best helmet, and add Faceguard upgrades for the old fashioned Warrior, Berserker, Farseer, and Archer Helmets.



Neitiznot Faceguard

Attack Bonuses
• Stab: +0
• Slash: +0
• Crush: +0
• Magic: +0
• Range: +0

Defence Bonuses
• Stab: +36
• Slash: +34
• Crush: +38
• Magic: +3
• Range: +34

Other Bonuses
• Melee Strength: +5
• Prayer: +3


Warrior Faceguard
Attack Bonuses
• Stab: +0
• Slash: +10
• Crush: +0
• Magic: -5
• Range: -5

Defence Bonuses
• Stab: +36
• Slash: +38
• Crush: +33
• Magic: +0
• Range: +34

Other Bonuses
• Melee Strength: +0
• Prayer: +0


Berserker Faceguard
Attack Bonuses
• Stab: +0
• Slash: +0
• Crush: +0
• Magic: +0
• Range: +0

Defence Bonuses
• Stab: +36
• Slash: +34
• Crush: +37
• Magic: +0
• Range: +34

Other Bonuses
• Melee Strength: +6
• Prayer: +0


Archer Faceguard
Attack Bonuses
• Stab: -5
• Slash: -5
• Crush: -5
• Magic: -5
• Range: +10

Defence Bonuses
• Stab: +11
• Slash: +13
• Crush: +14
• Magic: +12
• Range: +10

Other Bonuses
• Ranged Strength: +1
• Prayer: +0


Farseer Faceguard

Attack Bonuses
• Stab: -5
• Slash: -5
• Crush: -5
• Magic: +10
• Range: -5

Defence Bonuses
• Stab: +13
• Slash: +15
• Crush: +16
• Magic: +12
• Range: +4

Other Bonuses
• Magic Damage Bonus: +1%
• Prayer: +0 Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

28-Aug-2019 22:41:22

KingOfGirth
Aug Member 2023

KingOfGirth

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I'm happy with everything in this blog except for the helm. +6 Strength is too high. As much as I love the design I will be voting no unless it is lowered to 4 or 3. I'd argue that it doesn't even need to be any higher than the regular neitz helm's +3 as it would only devalue the serp helm yet again.

I understand that this is to make the faceguard drop off the new monsters valuable, power creep is inevitable and you don't want to release content that's dead on arrival, but I'd rather the basilisk knights be dead content than see the serp helm, something that is "degradable", expensive to buy and costly to use, be made worthless.

I'd propose that the new monsters be made to drop face masks for the other fremy helms (berserker, farseer, archer etc.) in addition to the neitz face mask which boosts their respective helm stats, especially the archer and farseer due to the helm upgrades to those are armadyl and ancestral, which are BIS and are 2x or 3x the price of a serp. The stats should however be worse than the armadyl helm and ancestral hat of course. Somewhere in between, though the BIS stats should be higher by a good mile.

This way there would be multiple valuable drops instead of one big item drop off those new monsters and so they can still be decently profitable and maybe worth unlocking for slayer.

29-Aug-2019 13:14:43

Sei Asagiri
Nov Member 2019

Sei Asagiri

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New helm is fine. As noted, Serp is fine as is due to the poison properties, and if you absolutely have to nerf the str on the faceguard to +5, you need to buff the prayer and other stats more, because this has way too many requirements for bad stats if it can't even vaguely compete with Serp. I would also like to see upgrades for the other frem helms though.

30-Aug-2019 06:50:21

Reminiscon

Reminiscon

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Sei Asagiri said :
New helm is fine. As noted, Serp is fine as is due to the poison properties, and if you absolutely have to nerf the str on the faceguard to +5, you need to buff the prayer and other stats more, because this has way too many requirements for bad stats if it can't even vaguely compete with Serp. I would also like to see upgrades for the other frem helms though.

Lol what are you talking about?

This is only a Master-level quest, and even at +5 the helm is superior to Serp due to its Prayer bonus in every case other than poison/venom, including the fact that it doesn't degrade while the Serp helm does degrade.

Vote no to wasted power creep. Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

30-Aug-2019 15:25:10 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2019 15:26:38 by Reminiscon

Slack Hunt
Oct Member 2023

Slack Hunt

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for everyone saying that the buffed neitiznot helm will devalue serpentine helm and therefore plan to vote no. serpentine helm got nerfed so that new content could come out without it having to surpass such a strong item. Serp helm is hardly deserving of being best in slot. A new helmet that requires more than just people's rwt'd gp, is a great addition to the game.

Only thing i do not like about this update is why must this be a master quest. unless there's gonna be more than a helmet as a reward from it i can hardly be bothered and i could imagine many people would agree. I havent even done song of the elves because its just too much effort. All new content seems to be locked behind a long ass quest. getting requirements is hard enough. This is what makes me lose interest in this game.

02-Sep-2019 07:53:22

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