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Sinraptor
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I thought the split between the Fremenniks and the Moon clan happened in the fourth age according to the lore, but in this post they mentioned the second age.

27-Aug-2019 23:32:46 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2019 23:33:21 by Sinraptor

Disloyal
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Those of you concerned about how the Neitiznot faceguard would devalue the Serpentine helm simply because of its +1 Strength difference, should similarly realize the difference in requirements and other bonuses outside of the +6 Strength versus +5 Strength. The Serpentine helm has the unique ability to envenom opponents, whilst also providing superior defensive bonuses alongside a respectable +5 Strength bonus, without any quest or non-combat skill requirements whatsoever; whereas the Neitiznot faceguard would require numerous non-combat skill and quest requirements, and would offer only slightly higher Strength and Prayer bonuses whilst compensating with its lessened defensive bonuses. In no way does the implementation of either item devalue the other.

28-Aug-2019 01:12:59

ZeeZee

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I am definitely excited for this update! I always loved the Fremennik questline and it'll be good to explore that side of the world again.

I am definitely curious as to how the story will go. One would assume that it is the player being exiled from the Fremennik, however considering the role the player and the Fremennik play in the events of Dragon Slayer 2, it would seem strange for the player to be exiled in a post-DS2 world. Maybe that isn't the route the story is taking though and maybe the player isn't the one being exiled. Who knows? It'll be fun to find out!
~ZeeZee~

28-Aug-2019 09:02:42

Fallen One

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Faceguard will be getting a big fat NO from me unless it is

a) Harder to get than the serpentine helm/rarer AND tradeable (this helm will be BIS, so it better be more valuable than serp and not just replace the serp). If this is going to be untradeable, it needs to degrade at a greater maitenance cost than the serpentine helm currently.

or

b) Nerfed in str bonus and just providing def/prayer, or fulfilling a different niche such as combining neitz with slayer helm.


Suggestions on making it harder to get. Make it so that if you're killing basilisks ON TASK they have a RARE chance of dropping a key to a door in that new dungeon similar to gargoyles and the slayer tower. Then make it an extremely rare drop from the basilisk knights regardless of it being on task or not.

Quests are easy. Skilling is easy. Rare drops from bosses at least consume resources. This won't. I'm all for new content and making a serp helm competitor. I'm just against ezscape and making good content obsolete.

28-Aug-2019 09:35:50 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2019 09:37:37 by Fallen One

Clauwaert

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Love the desing; maybe the nose is a bit pointy? What about the big dark eyes?

Maybe adding an option to open and close the visor might help to balance the stats/looks?
Open it to gain some offensive stats; close it to gain some defensive stats?

Also: dependent on the fact if Basilisks Knights are behind a slayer wall and the rarity of the attachment the helm should have stats in line with Serp Helm:
- Serp is only 3m so it might be the cheaper option anyway (no long term costs included)
- Venom

28-Aug-2019 13:09:24

Good Old Abe
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Fallen One said :

b) Nerfed in str bonus and just providing def/prayer, or fulfilling a different niche such as combining neitz with slayer helm.
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Quests are easy. Skilling is easy. Rare drops from bosses at least consume resources. This won't. I'm all for new content and making a serp helm competitor. I'm just against ezscape and making good content obsolete.

1. Serp will still do more dps because of venom--so while it won't be "BIS Str bonus" it will still be "BIS DPS" AND defense. In addition to that, the serpentine helm has the venom negation perk, which... sort of seems like a definitive example of "fulfilling a different niche."

2. As stated previously, this won't make the serp helm obsolete. Besides that, maybe it's not such a bad thing to have ONE piece of BIS str bonus gear locked behind a master level quest? It's only one piece--and it's a piece that people rarely even use because it's degradeable. The only other piece of BIS melee gear that is degradeable is scythe.

28-Aug-2019 14:35:41

Odens origin

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As of now I'm looking forward for this quest and the new Neitiznot helmet. Stats looks good to me as proposed. Just don't make it another dead content item before release. +6 strength bonus is fine as serpentine helm has it's own niche, envenoming opponents & immunity to poison/venom. Not to mention it's defensive stats. +1 strength bonus over that doesn't devalue it.

Also take into consideration what Disloyal said. Would love to see either variants or upgrades to Berserk, Archer & Farseer helmets.

28-Aug-2019 15:42:06 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2019 15:43:24 by Odens origin

Reminiscon

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Odens origin said :
As of now I'm looking forward for this quest and the new Neitiznot helmet. Stats looks good to me as proposed. Just don't make it another dead content item before release. +6 strength bonus is fine as serpentine helm has it's own niche, envenoming opponents & immunity to poison/venom. Not to mention it's defensive stats. +1 strength bonus over that doesn't devalue it.

Also take into consideration what Disloyal said. Would love to see either variants or upgrades to Berserk, Archer & Farseer helmets.


They could make it +5 and it won't be dead content. So, automatically, they should. Power creep for no reason is bad. It's like when they gave Avernic +2 more bonus over Dragon when +1 would have sufficed. It's just not good for the longevity of the game.

Strength and Prayer bonus is superior to Defense bonus when training against mobs/Slayer, and lower level PVMing.

+6 is overkill.


Upgrades to Berserk, Archer, and Farseer Helms sounds like a GREAT idea. Let Neitiznot be the good Tribrid helmet, but make each of those three perhaps slightly better in each of their respective styles of combat.

A Berserker Helmet upgrade with +6 STR and zero prayer bonuses, with lower defenses than Neitiznot Faceguard (presumably +5 STR with this suggestion), might be appropriate.


SUMMARY: Increases in total possible Strength bonus is NEVER something you should take lightly, J-Mods. This one stat in particular is something you need to pay VERY close attention to. Long live the Wilderness. Long live risk vs reward in PVM. Long live 2006.

28-Aug-2019 17:06:09 - Last edited on 28-Aug-2019 17:10:11 by Reminiscon

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