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From a player who has been around since classic I want to mention a few things.

First off, the whole reason OSRS was brought back was because people did not like EOC. PERIOD. Not for any other reason than that. The only reason we went back to 2007 was because the Mods only had that copy of OSRS. They even said in the blog before they asked if people would want OSRS that "we luckily have a copy of the game from back in 2007". If they had a copy of OSRS from 2011 then they would have used that instead.

Now that is is no longer EOC they can continue to improve and have the game grow just like they were with RS3 but without the EOC being a part of it. Everyone complaining about "Stop changing the game I want it to stay 2007 rs and no easyscape!" are missing the whole point of why the game was brought back. It was to have a copy of the game that was before the change that literally made it a completely different game with the combat system.

Yes, they are bringing in Addy and Rune dragons. Yes these were in RS3, but they are going to be completely different. Different drops, different stats, different environment (with them being in a completely new guild). As Mod Ash even pointed out that it just makes sense to continue this trend as we have all metal dragons up to mirthril already. This isn't like they announced we are getting something that comes from RS3 that was never in OSRS. This is just common sense of an expansion of the metal dragons that were already in the game to start.

Everything they do from here on out is a huge improvement to the game. No one wants to play a game that does not improve or get better. The reason EOC was hated so much was because it completely changed the game. It was no longer Runescape. It was world of warcraft with worse graphics. They can go back to their roots and create updates to the game they first created and this time with the communities opinion.

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28-Sep-2017 16:46:06

osrsSascha
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I don't think this dev blog has been thought out properly. For example, I can't seem to think of any differences between the Dragon Crossbow and the Dragon Hunter Crossbow, which in my mind will look exactly the same prior to the stats. In my opinion, I would consider not releasing the Dragon Crossbow whether or not it's getting voted for, due to the Dragon Hunter Crossbow - which is already in the game at this date. It would be a lot better if you changed the Dragon Hunter Crossbow to feature the special attack and the planned stats, or else it'll be almost two identical crossbows in the game - but that's just my opinion.

The Dragon Platebody and Dragon Kiteshield should be released and wearable without the quest completion requirement, due to the quest already have a decent amount of quest features.

Also, the Myths Guild idea seems cool. I've been craving Adamant and Rune Dragons for a long time. Good job.

The new boss seems interesting and challenging and I'm looking forward to it.

Othat than that, keep up the good work, Jagex.
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28-Sep-2017 16:47:06

Miu

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Buckeyeman69 said :
I agree with both assumptions, as for those that can remember how those "polls' that was for EOC and how well they got manipulated even tho every update thread about it filled the full thread against it


Please explain the comparison you're making between a poll with several options that can be interpreted differently and a poll with "Yes/No" and an abstain option that doesn't factor into the percentages.

I'm not a fan of the idea of dragon slayer 2, but I can see the appeal and I'm not whining over it being manipulated when over 90% of players are in favor of it.

It's fine to be a minority and it's fine to be opposed to some of this content, but stupid posts like "it's rigged" only makes you look like an idiot and undermines your own argument.
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28-Sep-2017 17:02:00

Buckeyeman69

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Miu said :
Buckeyeman69 said :
I agree with both assumptions, as for those that can remember how those "polls' that was for EOC and how well they got manipulated even tho every update thread about it filled the full thread against it


Please explain the comparison you're making between a poll with several options that can be interpreted differently and a poll with "Yes/No" and an abstain option that doesn't factor into the percentages.

I'm not a fan of the idea of dragon slayer 2, but I can see the appeal and I'm not whining over it being manipulated when over 90% of players are in favor of it.

It's fine to be a minority and it's fine to be opposed to some of this content, but stupid posts like "it's rigged" only makes you look like an idiot and undermines your own argument.
ill try to explain as I don't think this is a troll but an actual question/debate, on the EOC "poll, it had gotten proven that it had been actually manually manipulated the numbers (by another player keeping track of the numbers, was posted in hlf, I do remember that) that's where my basis is, it doesn't matter whether I agree/disagree or am the minority/majority in the polls, I have high doubts based on their(jagex) record of keeping the polls "honest' and what the players actually want compared to what they think they want, correct these polls are a yes/no/skip option, BUT who is to say that if they want to push thru some content , that they wont manipulate the numbers? they have in the past, also I personally have put many things in the suggestion for polls, and have agreed with many other players with good idea's, but yet I haven't seen any reach polling value, I do hope this explains my previous statement, happy scaping - buck

edit- it was also proven that the same thing happened on the osrs poll just by timestamps

28-Sep-2017 18:28:59 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2017 18:52:09 by Buckeyeman69

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typical same old jagex..you guys are idiots first of all why the hell would you revamp old intereface with new one just to make it look fancy, the fun in a game to keep it simple and original so it wont end up like eoc...
2nd point there is no need for 'MAKE ALL' option this is just for lazy players... that are not even skillers.. mostly amateur pvmers who are crying for maxcape that serve no purpose anyway...

can you stop ruining game ffs..

28-Sep-2017 18:46:55

Miu

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Buckeyeman69 said :
ill try to explain as I don't think this is a troll but an actual question/debate, on the EOC "poll, it had gotten proven that it had been actually manually manipulated the numbers (by another player keeping track of the numbers, was posted in hlf, I do remember that) that's where my basis is, it doesn't matter whether I agree/disagree or am the minority/majority in the polls, I have high doubts based on their(jagex) record of keeping the polls "honest' and what the players actually want compared to what they think they want, correct these polls are a yes/no/skip option, BUT who is to say that if they want to push thru some content , that they wont manipulate the numbers? they have in the past, also I personally have put many things in the suggestion for polls, and have agreed with many other players with good idea's, but yet I haven't seen any reach polling value, I do hope this explains my previous statement, happy scaping - buck


Here's the EoC Poll results.

I definitely prefer it to the old system = 20.31%
I like it so far, but can't yet be sure = 19.14%
I don't like it = 19.62%
It's OK, but needs improvement = 14.31%
I like both the new and the old systems = 25.97%
I don't do combat, so have no opinion = 0.66%

Jagex came to the conclusion that: " Over 80% of respondents who played the latest Evolution of Combat Beta either preferred it or had a generally positive response to it. " Obviously that conclusion is extremely biased and ignores half of "i like both," thinks "needs improvement" is positive feedback, and ignores the uncertainty. One could just as easily gather that 80% prefer the old combat system.

So how does that relate to OSRS? OSRS's polling system is inherently biased AGAINST content going through, requiring an overwhelming majority of 75% to get passed. It's not like Jagex is asking "Do you NOT want dragon slayer 2 to come out?"
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28-Sep-2017 18:49:24 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2017 18:50:08 by Miu

Buckeyeman69

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[/quote]

Here's the EoC Poll results.

I definitely prefer it to the old system = 20.31%
I like it so far, but can't yet be sure = 19.14%
I don't like it = 19.62%
It's OK, but needs improvement = 14.31%
I like both the new and the old systems = 25.97%
I don't do combat, so have no opinion = 0.66%

Jagex came to the conclusion that: " Over 80% of respondents who played the latest Evolution of Combat Beta either preferred it or had a generally positive response to it. " Obviously that conclusion is extremely biased and ignores half of "i like both," thinks "needs improvement" is positive feedback, and ignores the uncertainty. One could just as easily gather that 80% prefer the old combat system.

So how does that relate to OSRS? OSRS's polling system is inherently biased AGAINST content going through, requiring an overwhelming majority of 75% to get passed. It's not like Jagex is asking "Do you NOT want dragon slayer 2 to come out?"[/quote] did u skip past my response about them getting busted manually maniping the numbers?

28-Sep-2017 18:56:50

Miu

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Buckeyeman69 said :
did u skip past my response about them getting busted manually maniping the numbers?


You claiming you saw someone somewhere claim that the numbers were manipulated isn't proof of rigging and certainly isn't evidence of them being """busted""". Provide a link and sure.

Here's the link to the EoC poll results. http://services.runescape.com/m=news/evolution-of-combat-survey-results
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28-Sep-2017 19:02:30 - Last edited on 28-Sep-2017 23:01:33 by Miu

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