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02-Feb-2017 16:52:30 - Last edited on 02-Feb-2017 16:59:19 by Mod Merchant

Sonic
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Diary Req on an additional DKS Rooms - yes

Elysian Buff - Mostly harmless, but arguably pointless? most of the bosses listed barely even require the use of an Elysian, nor would they ever, even if buffed. I mean who is going to use an Ely at a F2p Hill Giant boss?

Additional crack for DKS/KQ out of cb - yes

Dark Relic for non cb - skip, don't care

Noted Mith Dragon Bars as unlockable - no, don't need it, the task is good enough drops wise

Full handed Trident charging - hell yeah, its annoying

Spectral Buff to all prayer draining attacks - sure, not opposed to solidifying a niche for Spectral

Corp cave shrinkage - Yes

KBD respawn timer to 10s - 15s would be a little easier, but yes, no reason why not

Divine Spirit Shield - If any, as a sigil drop, not as an add on to Elysians, personally would vote no to Divine as i don't think there is any reasonable place for the shield in game without Familiars. Where would you even use it effectively? the Prayer drain is strong and mostly would be used to be unkillable in single combat PvP Probably not going as fast as the name suggests.
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02-Feb-2017 17:14:38

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Regarding the Dagannoth King room, I don't see how going to an instanced lair where you can potentially lose millions worth on items if you DC is a good thing. Regardless of whether or not you get rings (who would even go if you couldn't get ring drops??) I can't see myself willing to risk bank when I could simply crash someone in the regular rooms (sorry, but it is what it is..).
As for the diary requirement option, sure, maybe? but a lot of people have had issues with everything being locked behind diary requirements. I wouldn't be against paying a fee (similar to the other time it was polled) to have it unlocked. IDK how you do it lore wise, or if you just don't bother?

The Ely should just be changed, that doesn't need to be polled. It's already supposed to work that way according to its description. Game integrity, call it whatever you want, but polling that is pretty silly.

"Should we remove the requirement to empty your hands while charging a trident? It would still require the same ingredients as before; staffs and other rune-supplying equipment would not be accepted."
Again, why not just change this? What difference does it make?

It had been hinted at (by John C I believe) that the dark relic could have another use besides simply xp. Can this be confirmed as being an actual use or is it something similar to the Jar of Souls meme? Either way, I'm all for increasing the xp, especially to other skills.
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02-Feb-2017 17:16:12 - Last edited on 02-Feb-2017 17:23:59 by Gurp Gork

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I dont agree with ely being buffed at zulrah and gorillas, you're gonna end up making trips too long which will make more people go and do them which will increase the items on the market a ton. People can already kill 7 - 8 zulrahs an invent, this buff would mostlikely make it 10 - 12 easily. Not a fan.

Divine doesn't need to be in osrs, you are looking for an excuse to add it and its not needed nor is it gonna be used anywhere that its a required item to use. Just gonna be used by rich kids who can afford it to hog boss worlds for longer periods of time since their supplies will last longer.

100% agree with most other things tho. Id rather see a task only instance dks area that you need fremmy hards or elites to use even if you are on task. THAT DROPS RINGS, because to be fair if you remove ring drops it wont be used even if the persons on task.

02-Feb-2017 17:22:49

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I dont agree with ely being buffed at zulrah and gorillas, you're gonna end up making trips too long which will make more people go and do them which will increase the items on the market a ton. People can already kill 7 - 8 zulrahs an invent, this buff would mostlikely make it 10 - 12 easily. Not a fan.


99% of people who can actually afford an Ely aren't going to bother using it at Zulrah, even with this change. It's far better to use an Arcane. We're talking about a 500m shield (currently) which not everyone can afford, and those that can won't even use it there.
Zulrah is the most farmed boss ever and you're worried about the drops coming into the market more? Uhh, no.
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02-Feb-2017 17:30:40 - Last edited on 02-Feb-2017 17:31:54 by Gurp Gork

Mate
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Why is there changes coming to the Elysian spirit shield and now a Divine spirit shield poll, but the Dinh's Bulwark is getting complety discounted? Surely you should focus on the new raids rewards to be more relevant in the game than to buff and reintroduce another new shield to the game?

The Dinh's Bulwark has only been out for under 4 weeks and it's already 30-40m. I was under the impression that raids is high level end game content, yet we have the shield that is seeing little to no use and is already at a very low price.

I don't understand why Jagex are caring too much about the Elysian shield dropping from 650m~ to ~500m, but don't seem to care about a <4 week old shield being already ~40m?
Is the Dinh's Bulwark supposed to be a lower tier shield? If so, why does it require level 75 attack/def to wield? There's been a lot of suggestions regarding the shield, but they're getting ignored.

Will we see a buff to the new shield?

02-Feb-2017 17:40:43 - Last edited on 02-Feb-2017 20:40:49 by Mate

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The DK's room shouldn't be instanced, it should be an exact copy of the regular DK's room and it should require the Fremennik Elite diary. Currently the main problem is that someone with a huge bank and maxed combat will mainly go on task only anyway, meaning the 85% that's duoing off-task at lvl 110 are crashed without hesitation. These 110's are the people that suffer from the crowdedness, these are the people who complain on Reddit. If u make the additional lair it will be soley for people that think they're special for completing Fremennik Elite diary; meaning if its without rings, or instanced where u lose 300M in gear, cause that's what maxed people risk at DK's. No one will go there still. You HAVE to make it the same as the regualar room, or better, or the crowdedness-problem will remain and you created even more dead content..

The Ely's 'buff' shouldn't be polled, it used to be this way, but the mod's scuffed coding was incomplete and the Ely was wrongly coded in the first place. It's a bug, an error, hotfix it allready.

Divine will be a very good addition to the game - though fairly useless, it will give richer, end-game players more incentive to make money. But making it have to be attached to an Ely doesn't make sense if this sigil will come from corp - getting the Divine, ull get an exact amount of Ely sigils per Divine anyway. The main reason to make it attached to the Ely shield is to make an Ely sink, but in theory it's not a sink at all, and doesn't make sense - stop forcing stuff for one reason without outweighing the 100 others.

If Divine were to make it into the game: If it comes from the Corp make a Divine sigil + Blessed spirit shield = Divine spirit shield. If it doesn't come from the Corp make it Divine sigil + Elysian spirit shield = Divine spirit shield.
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02-Feb-2017 17:42:13 - Last edited on 02-Feb-2017 17:47:01 by Spoice

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